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Tucker Carlson In Hungary Supporting Authoritarian Leader

posted 3 years ago by Keelai (34858)
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"Fox News host Tucker Carlson on Thursday whitewashed Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán's autocratic record, presenting the authoritarian leader's approach to politics as a model for the United States. He has said authoritarian Hungary is freer than the U.S..

It's also not just Freedom House that has raised concerns about Orbán. Numerous human rights organizations, democracy watchdogs, political scientists, and historians have underscored the myriad ways Orbán has tightened his grip over Hungary's political system while maintaining the veneer of democracy.

Reporters Without Borders in July, for example, pointed to Orbán as one of the world's 37 "press freedom predators."

In an interview with Insider last year, Sheri Berman, a professor of political science at Barnard College and author of "Democracy and Dictatorship in Europe," said, "At this point, Hungary is a full-on dictatorship. No if, ands, or buts."

Orbán is unabashedly xenophobic and bigoted, instituting policies against migrants and the LGBTQ community that have been condemned worldwide.

"The government used the Covid-19 pandemic as a pretext for attacks on the rule of law and democratic institutions," Human Rights Watch said of Hungary. "The government has made access to asylum close to impossible, interferes with independent media and academic freedom, and undermines the rights of women and LGBT people, including blocking the implementation of the Istanbul Convention that aims to prevent violence against women."

But Carlson, who has espoused white supremacist conspiracy theories on his show and routinely attacks immigrants, effectively did what amounted to PR for Orbán. The Fox News host presented the Hungarian leader as a pro-family leader who protects his country's borders, without mentioning how the European Union's supreme court — the European Court of Justice — in the past year ruled that Orbán's government has been illegally deporting refugees to Serbia.

Orbán's border policies are driven by ethnonationalism, and he's made no secret of this. "We do not want to be diverse," Orbán said in a 2018 speech, adding, "We do not want our own color, traditions, and national culture to be mixed with those of others."

In the interview that aired Thursday, Carlson gave the Hungarian leader a platform to promote this worldview and bash his Western critics."
https://www.businessinsider.com/tucker-carlson-did-pr-for-hungary-authoritarian-leader-2021-8

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[–] JoWilli (19957) 3 years ago

thanks for talking about anyone other than that guy who has dementia and is lost in the white house.

his handlers keep saying marco to find him, but he thinks he is getting marcos pizza.

Trump and I salute you!

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[–] Keelai (34858) 3 years ago

Of course, you and your GQP pals support fascism which is why you stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6th and presently cheer your fascist mouthpiece from the American Pravda channel as he insults America, American values and kisses a dictator's butt like your cult leader Trump did with Putin and Kim.

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[–] JoWilli (19957) 3 years ago

"When the people fear government we have tyranny. When the government fears the people, we have liberty."-Thomas Jefferson

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[–] Keelai (34858) 3 years ago

The U.S. government is for and by the People! It's a democracy!

But, Tucker Carlson wants a tyranny run by a dictator.

He hates America and everything most Americans value.

BTW, you took that quote out of context since it's comparing a struggle against a monarchy for democratic rule.

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[–] Rorikon (17855) 3 years ago

So he doesn't want refugees, migrants, and degeneracy aka liberalism and that's authoritarian? Is that it? So he likes to keep his country Hungarian and that's bad? The way I see it, forced diversity from other nations to Hungary is bad. The western liberalism looks mad that Hungary isn't conforming to their open border and degenerate ways. I don't get why they can't just leave Hungary alone and let the rest of Europe do their 'experiments' with this type of society. How's the crime or terrorism in Hungary?

https://www.travelsafe-abroad.com/hungary/

So to be authoritarian you must:
-Not dilute your culture
-Not take in refugees/migrants
-Not support LGBTQ+

Talk about status quo change. Until Obama came along, gay marriage wasn't even a thing and no one made a big fuss then (besides the LGBTQ community of course).

Anyway I support Hungary besides the woman thing you mentioned and free press if that's the case. Do they have free and fair elections? If so, what's the problem again?

It's like the Middle East situation where EU/US will look the other way on 'freedom' because it's to the 'interests' of the nation.

On March 30, the Hungarian parliament voted to allow Prime Minister Viktor Orbán to rule by decree indefinitely, giving him dictatorial powers for at least the foreseeable future. Orbán can suspend existing laws or enact new ones—all with de facto parliamentary approval and without a known end date. The law also criminalizes spreading false or distorted facts that interfere with the public safety or are “suitable for alarming or agitating” the public, crimes punishable by several years in prison. Concerningly, this language is vague enough to cover anyone who challenges the government’s preferred narratives and handling of the coronavirus. With lower courts already suspended and the path to the Constitutional Court unclear, it’s difficult to envision the legislation being challenged. As legal sociologist Kim Lane Scheppele writes in the Hungarian Spectrum, Orbán’s “emergency gives him everything he ever dreamed of: The absolute freedom to do what he wants.”

THAT is authoritarian although there is some similarities to what's happening under the current Biden administration as with the previous on 'certain' topics as you've already seen that could be considered authoritarian-lite.

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[–] Keelai (34858) 3 years ago

Which country did YOUR ancestors migrate from?

The United States is a land of immigrants! But, since you believe the U.S. should only have an Indigenous population, shouldn't you return to your own country in order to not to be a hypocrite?

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[–] Rorikon (17855) 3 years ago

My ancestors migrated from East Asia.

I never said it should only have indigenous population. Your way of thinking is weird in the sense it's like I am talking of the stone age or something. Obviously I am talking about the current demographic there after all the conquering. We're talking about forced migration INTO the country, not people within "go back to your own country" shick. Nice try.

C'mon buddy, you should know me better by now... I am disappointed.

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[–] Keelai (34858) 3 years ago

There are right-wingers who want only Western Europeans in the U.S.. Their complaint isn't about immigration. It's about people like you being here. You're on the losing side if you're agreeing with them.

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[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

Hungary sounds pretty BASED to me. Fuck you and your globalism pals

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[–] jimmyjuliano12 (342) 3 years ago

i don't want the islamization of the west either, i suppose that makes me neonazi...

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[–] Keelai (34858) 3 years ago

Only 1% of Americans are Muslim!

You want to destroy democracy and freedom in the U.S. because you have an irrational fear of a single religion?

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[–] Rorikon (17855) 3 years ago

1.1% actually but hey whose counting.

Some fun info:
According to a 2017 study done by the Institute for Social Policy, “American Muslims are the only faith community surveyed with no majority race, with 26% white, 18% Asian, 18% Arab, 9% black, 7% mixed race, and 5% Hispanic”.

An estimated 10-20% of the slaves brought to colonial America from Africa arrived as Muslims.

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[–] Keelai (34858) 3 years ago

Christians, too. But, in fewer numbers. Islam, Judaism and Christianity were present in Africa practically since their inception. Most people are unaware that there were cities, kingdoms and Empires throughout Africa where various people traveled. There were active trade routes throughout the continent. Trade was with Arabs, Indians and Chinese as well as Europe. Half the gold in Europe during the Middle Ages came from Africa.

Richest man in history was Mansa Musa, king of the Mali Empire.

Portugal ruined Africa with their greed.

A larger percentage of African-Americans are Christian than other American groups. People underestimate their conservative values.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/04/23/black-americans-are-more-likely-than-overall-public-to-be-christian-protestant/

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[–] KinkyInk (1694) 3 years ago

"the European Court of Justice — in the past year ruled that Orbán's government has been illegally deporting refugees to Serbia."

The illegal immigrants come into Hungary illegally from Serbia and Hungary catches them and sends them back.

Only idiot liberals would call that 'illegally deporting refugees to Serbia.'

By that logic, if I try to get into Canada without a passport and they deny me, they're 'illegally deporting refugees to America.'

Moron.

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[–] Keelai (34858) 3 years ago

Hungary should leave the EU if it's dictator is upset with the rules.

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[–] KinkyInk (1694) 3 years ago

And you should get a replacement for your defective brain.

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[–] Rorikon (17855) 3 years ago

Agreed, like the UK for example. But knowing some geopolitics, I doubt they would want that else the EU would've kicked them out already. All to do with geography and the position they're in that benefits the EU if not the US they won't do it. Just like how we can't get rid of Saudi Arabia, to turn the other cheek if you will.

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[–] Keelai (34858) 3 years ago

My post is really about the U.S..

An American is in a foreign country praising a dictator and preaching against American values. He and other right-wing extremists want to end democracy and freedom.

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[–] SpiritualLiar (283) 3 years ago

Tucker Carlson In Hungary Supporting Authoritarian Leader
posted 12 hours ago by Keelai (14808)
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"Fox News host Tucker Carlson on Thursday whitewashed Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán's autocratic record,

He was elected because people of his country wanted him to close the border to so-called "refugees", and he did. He's following that promise, that makes him an elected democratic leader (unlike Forrest Biden)

None of that makes him "authoritarian", or "autocratic". You are a twisted terrorist-swooning, pseudo-intellectual simpleton who just likes the way those words sound, and you enjoy using those words to make anti-ISISlam people sound like the bad guys. That's all there is to it.

If Mudslime terrorists were to enter Hungary and kill a bunch of people, you would ferociously jack off to pictures of the blood-soaked corpses, because you are a cuntpugnant, sick twisted fuck. Just like anyone else who is retarded enough to support Biden.

Kill yourself in front of your family "Keelai", you lying, loathsome, putrid piece of garbage. Thanks in advance.

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[–] Keelai (34858) 3 years ago

You are an unhappy individual.

"On March 30, the Hungarian parliament voted to allow Prime Minister Viktor Orbán to rule by decree indefinitely, giving him dictatorial powers for at least the foreseeable future."

No surprise that you would support authoritarianism over democracy and freedom.

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[–] SpiritualLiar (283) 3 years ago

You are an unhappy individual.

What kind of lunatic would be happy about President Gropesalotofkids being shoehorned into the White House, and the coming ISISlamification of the West?

What kind of lunatic would be happy about that?

You have nothing of value at all to say. Kee-lai-yourself in front of your family.

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[–] Keelai (34858) 3 years ago

1% Muslim population in the U.S.. Why are you so intolerant to be threatened by this?

You are very unhappy. Four years of Trump didn't help you.

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[–] KinkyInk (1694) 3 years ago

"On March 30, the Hungarian parliament voted to allow Prime Minister Viktor Orbán to rule by decree indefinitely, giving him dictatorial powers for at least the foreseeable future."

More liberal bullshit.

From Wiki:

On 30 March 2020, the Hungarian parliament voted 137 to 53 in favor of passing legislation that would create a state of emergency without a time limit, grant the Prime Minister the ability to rule by decree, the suspension of by-elections, and possibly prison sentences for spreading fake news and sanctions for leaving quarantine.[104][105][106] Two and a half months later, on 16 June 2020, the Hungarian parliament passed a bill that ended the state of emergency effective 19 June.[107] However, on the same day the parliament passed a new law removing the requirement of parliamentary approval for future "medical" states of emergencies, allowing the government to declare them by decree.

So the March 30th decree was rescinded two months later. Why didn't your article mention that? Because they, and you, are lying POS's.

By the way, all of that 'dictatorial power' supposedly given to Orbán is EXACTLY what the Democrats did in the U.S. Democrat governors shut down their states with NO approval from their legislatures. And Democrats squelched 'fake news' about Covid, and sent people to jail and shut down business for violating quarantine.

Looks like you're admitting Democrats are dictators.

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[–] Keelai (34858) 3 years ago

He still has dictatorial powers. You're anti-American for wanting that here.

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[–] KinkyInk (1694) 3 years ago

You're like a child stamping his foot and yelling, "He's a dictator!"

Just because you claim it, doesn't make it true.

It just makes you a liar.

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[–] Keelai (34858) 3 years ago

Your own linked quote says he still has dictatorial powers.

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[–] KinkyInk (1694) 3 years ago

"Sheri Berman, a professor of political science at Barnard College and author of "Democracy and Dictatorship in Europe," said, "At this point, Hungary is a full-on dictatorship. No if, ands, or buts.""

Orbán was re-elected in a democratic election in 2018, and the next election will be held in 2022. How in the hell is that a 'full-on dictatorship'?

It's more likely Sheri Berman is a full-on libtard.

Oh yeah, she is:

"Should Trump and the Republican party emerge victorious, the damage done may well become irreparable."

"Trump and the plutocratic populism he represents threaten to destroy American democracy."

“What [Trump] would like to do is eliminate all sources of opposition to him — indeed, even sources of criticism of him — and he’s willing to do pretty much anything to do that.”

"Despite Donald Trump’s incompetence, corruption and constant lying, he received over 47% of the votes. "

It's obvious the author of this article knew where to go to get a loony quote about a conservative leader.

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[–] Keelai (34858) 3 years ago

Vote rigging
https://verfassungsblog.de/how-to-abolish-democracy-electoral-system-party-regulation-and-opposition-rights-in-hungary-and-poland/

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[–] KinkyInk (1694) 3 years ago

An opinion piece. About as meaningful as liberals accusing Republicans of suppressing the vote.

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[–] Keelai (34858) 3 years ago

Their explanation about the Hungarian vote rigging is good.

Feel free to explain why the Hungarian voting system isn't fair? Or fair, if you believe that? I assume you can explain it better than the "opinion piece".

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[–] KinkyInk (1694) 3 years ago

One person, one vote, just like in the U.S.

You need to show me an actual news story about this, not an opinion piece.

Because we all know how much liberals fling the bullshit.

Example: Conservatives in the U.S. want to ensure only citizens vote and only vote once, so they attempt to pass Voter ID laws.

Liberals respond by accusing Conservatives of racism and wanting to return to the days of Jim Crow.

Like I said, bullshit.

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[–] Keelai (34858) 3 years ago

Funny how you criticized an "opinion piece", but you can't correctly explain the Hungarian voting process.

Furthermore, you can't correctly explain the American one!

I suggest you turn off your right-wing propaganda shows which has kept you ignorant and go to a library.

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[–] KinkyInk (1694) 3 years ago

You're the one attempting to make a point here. Still waiting for a news source that legitimately describes the Hungarian 'dictatorship', and not some liberal ranting about it.

And waiting...

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[–] Keelai (34858) 3 years ago

You can always move to Hungary. The lack of democracy and state-sponsored xenophobia should suit you.

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[–] KinkyInk (1694) 3 years ago

STILL waiting for a news source that legitimately describes the Hungarian 'dictatorship', and not some liberal ranting about it.

And waiting...

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[–] SpiritualLiar (283) 3 years ago

Have you got me on ignore, ISIS-lover?

Afraid of the truth?

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[–] Gubbio (3893) 3 years ago

Is your diaper full again ?! 💩😲

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