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Did George Floyd Die of a Drug Overdose?

posted 5 years ago by kukuxu (5409)
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■ Floyd’s blood tests showed a concentration of Fentanyl of about three times the fatal dose.
■ Fentanyl is a dangerous opioid 50 times more potent than heroin. It has rapidly become the most common cause of death among drug addicts.
■ The knee hold used by the police is not a choke hold, it does not impede breathing. It is a body restraint and is not known to have ever caused fatal injury.
■ Floyd already began to complain “I can’t breathe” a few minutes before the neck restraint was applied, while resisting the officers when they tried to get him into the squad car. Fentanyl affects the breathing, causing death by respiratory arrest.
■ It was normal procedure to restrain Floyd because he was resisting arrest, probably in conjunction with excited delirium (EXD), an episode of violent agitation brought on by a drug overdose, typically brief and ending in death from cardiopulmonary arrest.
■ The official autopsy did indeed give cardiopulmonary arrest as the cause of death, and stated that injuries he sustained during the arrest were not life-threatening.
■ Videos of the arrest do not show police beating or striking Floyd, only calmly restraining him
■ In one video Floyd is heard shouting and groaning loudly and incoherently while restrained on the ground, which appears to be a sign of the violent, shouting phase of EXD. His ability to resist four officers trying to get him into the squad car is typical of EXD cases. A short spurt of superhuman strength is a classic EXD symptom.

https://www.unz.com/article/or-did-george-floyd-die-of-a-drug-overdose/

[–] elcamino (15540) 5 years ago

You will need to wait for a trial if there is one to see concentration. He also had medical problems. But really a well person would still be alive now.

[–] Matildawormwood (1545) 5 years ago

No idiot!! The video was loud and clear. 4 idiot racist cops murdered him. They all deserve the electric chair until THEY can't breahe.

[–] joej2923 (3147) 5 years ago

We don't know what caused the death. Floyd could have died of an overdose. They had called for an ambulance before the knee to the neck video. There are two conflicting autopsies. The knee to the neck is obviously a stress position but we don't know if that caused his death. The full bodycam videos need to be released so the public can see Floyd's state of mind and overall health before the knee to the neck happened. You can't fully judge the situation based on the final eight minutes of the interaction.

[–] Matildawormwood (1545) 5 years ago

That's a lame excuse that racist people are making. The video clearly shows the cop pressing down in his neck with his knee. He clearly had trouble breathing and went unconscious. It was video tapes! Videos don't lie.

[–] Bloodworth79 (5739) 5 years ago

Was he talking and squirming?

[–] TimMC (9143) 5 years ago

OH. You've seen the missing video. OK. Good.

[–] slimone (7996) 5 years ago

Right!!!!!

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Here's what MediaBiasFactcheck.com had to say about your cut+paste source 'The Unz Review':

"Overall, we rate The Unz Review a Questionable Source due extreme right wing bias, promotion of propaganda and hate, as well as utilizing poor sources. (M. Huitsing 2/12/2018) Updated (8/26/2018)"

Maybe next time you can use a credible source which doesn't promote propaganda and hate in it's reporting ? Maybe then you will be taken more seriously ?

Until, then - ciao!

[–] kukuxu (5409) 5 years ago

A leftist website called "mediabiafactcheck" attacking an independent site. That's nothing new.

Now, please, don't go off-topic.

[–] elcamino (15540) 5 years ago

All the back and forth hype will get the judge to just say manslaughter time served in this. The Atlata thing has commie city people wanting higher office.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

"mediabiasfactcheck" has been used by your Trump comrades on this forum all the time.

It's not a leftist website, and your source his hardly 'independent' - it's alt-right. Can't stay "on topic" when you're posting bullshit alt-right lies, propaganda, hate and conspiracies.

And I will call you (and others) out on it, each and every time.

[–] ultravioletx (10237) 5 years ago

The ku kux man fails again.

[–] TexasJack (12516) 5 years ago

Leftist site. Garbage. No authoritative value at all.

[–] Padeen (6459) 5 years ago

Its a garbage website. Do you seriously get your news from there? Perhaps you can point us to another fact checking source that you approve of?

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/The_Unz_Review

The Unz Review is an alt-right website which describes itself as an alternative to the mainstream media.[2] It contains articles and content that promote white nationalism, the international Jewish conspiracy, Holocaust denial, the white genocide conspiracy theory, racialism pseudoscience and eugenics. Many of its most frequently featured commentators actively promote violence and genocide against Jews, African Americans and other "non-white" groups.

[–] Gd5150 (11966) 5 years ago

Interesting article. When this info is presented in court the Shithole is going to hit the fan.

[–] yatzo376 (7753) 5 years ago

Do you think the world is ready to accept that?.., after viewing that video 100 times?

[–] joej2923 (3147) 5 years ago

That's why I've been preaching about the need to release the full bodycam video so we can see how Floyd was acting before the knee to the neck. The knee to the neck video is powerful imagery that is hard to overcome. I think public sentiment would change if we saw video of Floyd trying to kick out the windows of the car or saying that he can't breathe BEFORE the knee to the neck.

[–] yatzo376 (7753) 5 years ago

Did u see the video?

[–] joej2923 (3147) 5 years ago

I've seen about four different videos but the only one with sound was the eight minute knee to the neck video. I saw security cam video of the patrol vehicle with officers frantically running around the car trying to close the doors while Floyd was in the back of the vehicle. I then saw the video where Floyd was handcuffed and led out of the vehicle and he sat down. I thought I read that Floyd sat down to passively resist instead of going to the patrol car. I then saw a video of Floyd being led to the patrol car and he fell down a couple of times. I don't know if the falling down was due to the officers or a medical emergency.

[–] AmeriGirl26 (15121) 5 years ago

So you're saying, he would have eventually died anyway, regardless of whether the cop held him down with his knee or not.

[–] elcamino (15540) 5 years ago

Well he tried to rob a Hispanic lady for money and drugs. Most likely he would have gone back to that,and got killed by some latino gang.

[–] Gd5150 (11966) 5 years ago

The question we’ve all been asking is why pin the guy for 9 minutes. Watching the video it made no sense.

We have yet to hear the officers side of the story. The ones who worked for a black police chief, Democrat mayor, and Democrat governor. They obviously knew they were on camera. So chances are they have an explanation as to the procedure they followed.

This trial is going to be an absolute disaster. There is a really good chance they are cleared and if that happens who knows what the Democrat left will do.

[–] HAL9000 (935) 5 years ago

He died of covid obv

[–] TexasJack (12516) 5 years ago

More or less. Other factors contributed, but, for the most part, George caused his own death. I believe the police officers involved are being railroaded.