5 Reasons Tara Reade’s Sexual Assault Claims (Biden) Are More Credible Than Christine Blasey Ford’s (Kavanaugh) - Politics Discussion

[–] joej2923 (3026) 5 years ago

I believe Biden did it since Biden is on camera groping women at various confirmation hearings over the years. Hopefully, he won't grope women anymore since he probably cannot perform the physical deed. Biden's groping is somewhat irrelevant since Trump has been accused by twenty-five women of sexual assault/harassment. While Biden has a lot of the same issues that Trump has, I will vote for Biden to prevent four more years of Trump. Trump is an aspiring autocrat while Biden actually knows how the government is supposed to work. Trump also bragged on tape about grabbing women by the p#@ssy.

https://www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-list-2017-12

Kavanaugh's situation is different since his SC appointment is for life and his vote on a case can change the lives of millions of people. Kavanaugh was a teenager when the incident happened so I'm not sure if he should be condemned for drunken teenage groping. I do think Kavanaugh's angry rant against Dems during the hearing should have disqualified him from the SC.

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[–] kukuxu (5409) 5 years ago

Biden's groping is somewhat irrelevant since Trump has been accused by twenty-five women of sexual assault/harassment.

Not a single one of the accusations against Trump has such elements of credibility, as the accusation against Biden.

Actually, it's interesting how all these accusations against the Republican side (Kavanaugh or Trump) share a conspicuous lack of evidence.

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[–] joej2923 (3026) 5 years ago

E. Jean Carroll is seeking Trump's DNA since she has a semen sample on her dress. She's the one he purportedly raped in a dressing room. That would be sufficient evidence to prove the incident happened while Trump denies it did. Trump's Access Hollywood tape is proof that he is a scumbag. Also, the text below from the article I posted above shows that Trump did go into women's changing rooms to check out barely dressed beauty pageant contestants. How many women have to come forward before you believe he is a sexual predator?

Trump appeared to admit to this behavior when he boasted in an April 2005 interview with radio host Howard Stern that he regularly walked into contestants' dressing rooms on the beauty pageants he owned while women were unclothed.

"I'll go backstage before a show and everyone's getting dressed and ready and everything else. And you know, no men are anywhere. And I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant," he said. "You know they're standing there with no clothes. And you see these incredible-looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that."

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[–] Rorikon (17872) 5 years ago

Maybe for Kavanaugh but definitely not Trump. Seen enough creepy videos of him making fornicating remarks of his daughter and a video of him wanting to date some 11-14 chick in 10 years where the little girls were like, "Ewww." That and the Epstein video with him in it. You can't pick one and ignore the other. Same goes for Biden. They're both creepy and weird and both in early stage dementia.

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[–] kukuxu (5409) 5 years ago

I guess you won't mind to link to the source, will you?

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[–] yatzo376 (7717) 5 years ago

What about Micheal cohens payoff for starters?

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[–] krl97a (5619) 5 years ago

Actually the accusations against Trump have been largely either debunked or failed to be corroborated, and often have other identifiable motives, but regardless the Biden accusations matter because he's supposed to be the anti-Trump. Trump is running on his substantive agenda and record as President. Democrats are running on their own personal hatred of Trump and Biden's supposed moral superiority. Much of their argument falls away if they run a credibly accused rapist against Trump.

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[–] joej2923 (3026) 5 years ago

I don't believe the accusations have been debunked. The problem is that these are sexual harassment claims and most women don't want to be put on trial. It's a he said / she said situation and the woman's reputation is often dragged through the mud. E. Jean Carroll's column was not renewed after she went public with her allegations.

People also don't have the money to keep paying lawyers while Trump gets his lawyers to delay the process. Per the article below, Zervos sued Trump in January 2017 and the lawyers are still causing delays.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/07/politics/summer-zervos-trump-lawsuit/index.html

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[–] krl97a (5619) 5 years ago

I said they've largely either been debunked, failed to be corroborated, and/or have other identifiable motives (e.g. political bias), but that's tangential. The point is that Democrats have been calling Trump a sexual harasser anyway. The new development is that Biden is being credibly accused of rape. That destroys the Democrats' election case if they're reduced to arguing that Trump is as bad as Biden. It doesn't hurt Trump.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

The point is that Democrats have been calling Trump a sexual harasser anyway.

No, the point is: When you have someone going on television and being recorded saying that he can go up to unsuspecting women and 'grab them by the pussy' and they don't mind because he's famous, that's sexual harassment.

When you're wife says it was 'locker room talk' and 'boys will be boys', that's called being complicit with the sexual harasser.

Dems are reminding people over and over again, with the corroboration of over a dozen women who were raped or assaulted by him, of what he said and did.

Let me know when an interview with Biden comes out which he explains how he can go up to women and grab them by their pussy.

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[–] krl97a (5619) 5 years ago

So you're running a rapist against a "sexual harasser", LOL? All you do is nullify your own case against Trump.

PS - You're also lying about the tape. Trump was saying those women would let "you" (someone in general, particularly a "star"; he may or may not have specifically included himself in mind) walk up and (consensually) grab them. He later dismissed that as meaningless locker room guy talk, and it wouldn't stand up as a confession in any court of law.

Heck, we've seen Creepy Joe Biden do worse stuff to visibly uncomfortable girls on camera than anything we've seen Trump do.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Heck, we've seen Creepy Joe Biden do worse stuff to visibly uncomfortable girls on camera than anything we've seen Trump do.

Obviously, you've never seen T-rump fondle Ivanka's hips and ass on television, at the RNC platform which made Ivanka look so undcomfortable.

Running a rapist (T-rump) against an alleged sexual harasser (Biden) - yes, you seem to have that right.

And you lost your mind while trying to defend T-rump from grabbing pussy. Not even T-rump believes what you said.

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[–] krl97a (5619) 5 years ago

Stop lying, doggie, you disgusting twat. You don't have to push every sick propaganda line the TDS left puts out.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

You're suffering from Biden Derangement Syndrome. You're trying so hard to erase T-rump's past.

Why don't you go back to 1992-93, when Ivanna testified under oath in her divorce that he raped her at the end of their marriage, when they were separating. T-rump's defense is 'there's no such thing as marital rape'.

Do you agree with T-rump ? Yes or no ?

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[–] krl97a (5619) 5 years ago

So Trump denied it under oath? Couples say all sorts of things in a nasty divorce (look at Amber Heard/Johnny Depp).

Does your diversion mean you're backing off from your disgusting lies bout Ivanka? And why are you not even trying to dispute the op's points, which were a comparison of Biden and Kavanaugh's highly promoted accuser?

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

No lies about Ivanka - it's there for the world to see. It turned everyone's stomach.

Want to go back to when he described Ivanka's body to Howard Stern ? Or when he said he'd bang her if he wasn't her father ? Same interview with Stern. Nothing gets more creepy and stomach-turning then him - but keep defending him.

And you're not answering the question with a simple yes or no:

Do you agree with T-rump that 'there's no such thing as marital rape' ?

Yes or no ?

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[–] krl97a (5619) 5 years ago

😄 I've posted actual footage of Biden creepily handling girls of all ages, and a credible rape accusation by a Democrat staffer that's being increasingly corroborated....and your best diversion attempt is to push your sick incest fantasy without even posting the debunked/doctored photos Democrats cooked up back when that was actually a deal on the darker corners of the internet? Along with some weak, out of context BS taken from a lawyer's argument almost 30 years ago?

You're not honest enough to admit it, but your actions show you do agree with the op that Reade is more credible than Ford, Kavanaugh's accuser.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

He had a more passionate embrace of Ivanka than he did his own wife - and it turned the stomachs of everyone (except T-rumptards). Here you go in case you forgot (notice the ass grab at the end):

https://time.com/4418524/ivanka-trump-donald-daughter/

And here's excerpts from T-rump's disgusting interview with Howard Stern in 2005, when he assures Stern that his daughters breasts were 'natural' and she 'didn't get them' somewhere.

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/trump-ivanka-piece-of-ass-howard-stern-229376

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-2004-trump-agreed-his-daughter-was-a-piece-of-ass/

There you go, cupcake. Take a swig of Clorox before your defeat lap.

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[–] krl97a (5619) 5 years ago

He didn't grab her ass, you lying weasel. He gave her a light, normal looking hug after she gave a great speech endorsing him and she didn't sound or look uncomfortable at all.

And if you actually read those fake news stories you linked to even they concede it was Howard Stern who called Ivanka a hot piece of ass and raised the question of whether she had fake breasts, not Trump. Stern's a shock jock troll, doing what he does.

You people are sick and desperate.

Look, fat, take your defeat lap.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

WOW - perception is everything with T-rumptards. You refuse to see what's before your eyes just to defend that sex predator. Ugh! You're disgusting.

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[–] krl97a (5619) 5 years ago

You see a normal hug, one with no ass grab, and concoct an incestuous fantasy in your head for partisan political reasons. You're disgusting.

Meanwhile Biden is credibly accused of a real rape. And you couldn't care less.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Who said I couldn't care less ? There you go gaslighting once again.

And who has credibly accused Biden of a 'real rape' (as compared to a 'fake rape' ? - you make no sense).

Why have you not said anything about E. Jean Carroll's 'real rape' accusations against T-rump?

And what was normal about his hug with his daughter, when he grabs her ass at the end ? Or did you look the other way ?

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[–] krl97a (5619) 5 years ago

And who has credibly accused Biden of a 'real rape' (as compared to a 'fake rape' ? - you make no sense).

Reade leveled a real rape accusation against Biden, unlike your sick incest fantasies involving Ivanka.
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Why have you not said anything about E. Jean Carroll's 'real rape' accusations against T-rump?

I did a few posts below, you drooling moron.

https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/5ea9936031d22774b61f303c/5-Reasons-Tara-Reades-Sexual-Assault-Claims-Biden-Are-More-Credible-Than-Christine-Blasey-Fords-Kavanaugh?reply=5eab5e01af4c5e5debe2e1fa

And what was normal about his hug with his daughter, when he grabs her ass at the end ?

There was no ass grab, you lying freak. You can't even see some posts you reply to on this thread so it's not surprising your sick fantasies blur your vision of a video. 😄

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I'm not sure why you are continuously covering up for T-rump's incestual behavior with his daughter Ivanka - both on the stage at the RNC and on the Howard Stern show (where he assured Stern her tits were real). It seems you have a lot more going on in your personal life and this is a very sensitive subject for you. You should seek help from a professional. You're not going to get the help you need here on this forum (that's for sure).

Furthermore, you are trying desperately to blend together T-rump's rape accusations with his incestual behavior. It's two different things which he is guilty of - you can't comprehend that.

Carroll and other women have also leveled real 'rape accusations' against T-rump, including his first wife Ivanna nearly 30 years ago. Why are you continuing to ignore these women, you pervert ?

"Carroll has avoided using the word “rape” to describe the incident, but she agrees that what she says occurred fits the legal definition of rape.

The journalist did not report the incident to police but she did tell two close friends about what allegedly occurred. The friends, both prominent media figures, have confirmed her account about their conversations.

Trump has denied the allegations, saying he has never known Carroll even though a photograph surfaced of the two with their then respective spouses at a 1987 party. He has also said “she’s not my type”."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/12/e-jean-carroll-says-she-received-death-threats-after-accusing-trump-of

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[–] PetyrBaelish (124) 5 years ago

#MeTooUnlessTheyreBlue

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[–] krl97a (5619) 5 years ago

Your obsession with spinning lies about incest is disgusting. You're a sick, perverted person.

Carroll's credibility has been shaken by her own bizarre comments about rape being "sexy", (prompting even liberal hack Anderson Cooper to be taken aback and cut to commercial), admitted rape fantasies, and confessed sexual harassment of Roger Ailes. Plus she's a feminist pundit who had a book coming out when she made the accusation.

You can't point to anything like that undermining Tara Reade's credibility. She was just a young, loyal Democrat working for Biden and then suddenly transferred, a claim she made that's been verified. No book coming out. None of the crazy or criminal stuff Carroll's done.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I'll say it again, and leave it at this:

There is something very telling with your need to keep covering up T-rump's incestuous behavior. It's probably not something you wish to open up about on a public forum, and I can't blame you. It's something you need to speak to a professional about in the privacy of a doctor's office. That's all I'm going to say about this, as I've said enough - I don't need to dig any deeper into your personal issues.

Good luck - I really do wish you the best with this.

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[–] krl97a (5619) 5 years ago

Your obsession with incest is sick. Seek help, freak.

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[–] kspkap (13567) 5 years ago

As per Doggie to you: “There is something very telling with your need to keep covering up T-rump's incestuous behavior. It's probably not something you wish to open up about on a public forum, and I can't blame you. It's something you need to speak to a professional about in the privacy of a doctor's office.”

Doggie needs professional help. When I read this I was furious! It’s been known for a long time when someone gets hung up and lies about sexual deviance toward someone else, the person is projecting his/her thoughts. It’s deemed Transference in psychotherapy.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Your defense of incest is sick.

Anyone - especially you - who defends incest needs professional help desperately. Not 'forum' help from the likes of your dim-witted T-rumptards (who engage by cheering your defense on) but real professional help.

My thoughts and prayers are with you. Again, I really do wish you the best with this.

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[–] kspkap (13567) 5 years ago

As krl put it:Your obsession with spinning lies about incest is disgusting. You're a sick, perverted person.

I agree! Except I would add demented! I watched that clip from the RNC several times. There was no ass grab It was a brief PAT on the hips. There was nothing to it. Get over your lying slanderous incestuous wanna be feelings. Many fathers hug and pat their daughters.

I’ve said it many times...you see what you want to see. There’s something mentally wrong with you. You need help. You continue with this and you could be sued for slander!

As far as Howard Stern’s interview, I agree with you. Reading that was uncomfortable, but he apologized later. He should not have answered the very personal questions about his daughter.

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[–] krl97a (5619) 5 years ago

Doggie needs professional help. When I read this I was furious! It’s been known for a long time when someone gets hung up and lies about sexual deviance toward someone else, the person is projecting his/her thoughts. It’s deemed Transference in psychotherapy.

In fact while it's one thing to lie, doggiedaddy seems to be fantasizing about the crap he makes up. It's truly sickening.

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[–] kspkap (13567) 5 years ago

He does seem to be fantasizing, especially about this incident. How anyone could look at this clip from the RNC and deem it evidence of incest has to have a warped mind! Before I looked at the link I expected to see Trump actually grabbing the cheeks of her arse. After all Doggie did write ass grab!

Huh? Say what? I played the clip 3 times! The only ass grab was visualized in his mind! Yep! Transference of one’s thoughts!

https://time.com/4418524/ivanka-trump-donald-daughter/

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[–] krl97a (5619) 5 years ago

It makes the fact he puts "daddy" in his screenname even more disturbing.

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[–] kspkap (13567) 5 years ago

I never thought of that! Now that you brought attention to it...Eww! “

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[–] yatzo376 (7717) 5 years ago

Ok Helen Keller

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[–] krl97a (5619) 5 years ago

Says the Creepy Joe Supporter, LOL.

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[–] yatzo376 (7717) 5 years ago

My friend, there is nothing creepier on Gods beautiful green earth than that orange nightmare LOL

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[–] krl97a (5619) 5 years ago

Wrong. The following gets difficult to watch around around 1:15 (when the Jaws music kicks in), but force yourself to watch it once anyway.

https://youtu.be/HjjUhc_rYZM

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[–] yatzo376 (7717) 5 years ago

Nah
That’s just a senile grandpa.
At least he didn’t grab em by the pussy

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[–] krl97a (5619) 5 years ago

No, multiple women have complained, and it's way creepier than anything I've seen Trump do.

Biden's always had that pattern of behavior. And he wasn't a "senile grandpa" when he allegedly took things a little further and finger raped his staffer Tara Reade.

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[–] yatzo376 (7717) 5 years ago

Again , anybody but that hideous wreck we elected

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Dozens of women have complained about T-rump, including E. Jean Carroll who said he raped her in a dressing room. Where's your outrage with T-rump ?

"Carroll wrote last year in New York magazine that Trump had sexually assaulted her in the 1990s, forcibly penetrating her in the dressing room of a Manhattan department store. Trump said he had never met Carroll, despite a photograph published in the same piece that showed the two together, and argued that she was accusing him to boost sales of her book."

https://www.vox.com/2019/11/4/20947841/e-jean-carroll-donald-trump-defamation-lawsuit

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[–] krl97a (5619) 5 years ago

😄 So again, moron, your argument is that Trump is as bad as Biden? If you wanted to attack Trump on this score (again), you should run a candidate who isn't credibly accused of rape. No, you're grabbing your own pussy.

For the record, E. Jean Carroll is the feminist columnist who made that accusation about a week before she had a book coming out (two potential motives for lying right there, unlike Reade), and her bizarre behavior has led even many leftists to distance themselves from her.

Her case....sounds shaky.

"An uncomfortable Anderson Cooper quickly went to commercial during an interview Monday night with the latest Trump sexual assault accuser, E. Jean Carroll, when she said that Trump's assault against her was "not sexual" and rape was "sexy."

Carroll is the author of the upcoming book, "What Do We Need Men For? A Modest Proposal","

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/06/25/stunned_anderson_cooper_cuts_to_commercial_when_trump_accuser_e_jean_carroll_calls_rape_sexy.html

NY Times: "E. Jean Carroll said she does not want to consider herself a victim and does not describe the incident with Donald Trump as a rape."

In the mid 1990s she also publicly described her own rape "fantasies" and later confessed to routinely sexually harassing Roger Ailes when they both worked for the forerunner of MSNBC.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/e-jean-carroll-sexual-harassment-roger-ailes

Like I said...

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

So again, moron, your argument is that Trump is as bad as Biden? If you wanted to attack Trump on this score (again), you should run a candidate who isn't credibly accused of rape.

Who is the candidate who's 'credibly accused of rape' which you are referring to ?

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[–] krl97a (5619) 5 years ago

LOL! I accept your surrender. Take another defeat lap.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Damn, Biden Derangement Syndrome has certainly grabbed you by your pussy!

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

LOLOLOLOL! Truth!

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[–] ultravioletx (10237) 5 years ago

The vast majority of US citizens didn't have a choice with Kavanaugh. We were forced to have him on the SC regardless of what we thought of him. At least Biden will actually get to be judged by the people. That's the real difference.

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[–] krl97a (5619) 5 years ago

Yawn.

https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/5ea86e2231d22774b61f2402/With-evidence-of-Bidens-sexual-assault-mounting-and-Dems-circling-wagons-is-the-MeToo-moment-completely-dead?reply=5ea9be05c22f3034afac69e0

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

CBF didn't get a fair investigation into this, nor did her witnesses. They rushed right through this so that jackass would get on the SC. It was horrible. But the Republican party has set the standard on how these women should be judged, and there's no turning back - the ones who lost are the women. Thanks T-rump!

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[–] krl97a (5619) 5 years ago

Everything you said is the opposite of the truth. Heck, Ford's own "witnesses" contradicted her story. The woman (or possibly her Democrat lawyers) even lied about her having a fear of flying when they were trying to drag out the hearing process even longer, before it came out that she flew regularly .

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[–] ultravioletx (10237) 5 years ago

Agreed. They rushed through it as fast as possible and called it due process. We saw them double down on that strategy by skipping Trump's senate trial and going straight to acquittal. Now that a democrat is being accused, the GOP is all about giving the accuser a full chance to speak. Great. Nobody is opposing that. Not even the DNC. But we all remember the shit the GOP has pulled the last couple years.

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[–] krl97a (5619) 5 years ago

Actually Democrats sat on the Ford accusation and waited until the last moment to publicize it, successfully postponing the confirmation vote and dragging out the process far longer than Republicans should have allowed it to be so they could smear Kavanaugh for political reasons. Their tactics were disgusting.

Ford got wall to wall media coverage for weeks and a direct hearing on national TV. Biden has given almost 20 interviews since the scandal broke and hasn't even been asked about it once.

The double standard is obvious and disgraceful, even to some honest leftists like Rose McGowan:

Rose McGowan: "You are a fraud. This is about holding the media accountable. You go after Trump & Kavanaugh saying Believe Victims, you are a lie. You have always been a lie. The corrupt DNC is in on the smear job of Tara Reade, so are you. SHAME"

https://www.dailywire.com/news/rose-mcgowan-calls-alyssa-milano-a-metoo-fraud-for-supporting-joe-biden-after-sexual-assault-allegation

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[–] snepts (11123) 5 years ago

Thank you for stating the situation better than I. Sometimes I get so apoplectic I sound just like the hillbilly pubs who back this current dolt in charge, and it's embarrassing to me. At least I was paying attention to Civics classes when I was in high school, so my heart - and head - is in the right place.

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[–] ducksoup (3933) 5 years ago

You should put pjmedia in the subjectline of the post so we know we can ignore this.

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[–] LemmyLugosi (411) 5 years ago

true dat chit

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

LOL!

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[–] Satan2016 (25525) 5 years ago

Keep your head up your ass, and only pull it out for CNN!
You can't even point out one flaw from 5 points.

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[–] ducksoup (3933) 5 years ago

You are truly a moron if you believe pjmedia and CNN are the only two options. I don't need to refute anything once you source it to pjmedia, that's my point, idiot.

(Sorry I called you a moron, that was giving you too many IQ points, and totally unjustified. I completely apologize.)

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[–] Forky (1739) 5 years ago

lol

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[–] Gd5150 (11750) 5 years ago

That and she laid her claims at the time they happened. In writing. Not 40 years later when he was nominated for the Supreme Court and the communist Democrat party/media needed a pawn to exploit to try to bring down the nominee with made up claims.

It’s really not important as the communist Democrat leadership will be switching the nominee for their lemmings in late October. Look for a brown female named Michelle or Oprah.

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[–] TimMC (9143) 5 years ago

If this was the only gargantuan negative facing the DNC and Biden I'd say the DNC would stick with him but this is, AS ALL OF YOU KNOW, not the only huge thing going on with Biden.

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