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How would you rank Ronald Reagan's presidency on a scale of 1 to 10?


State whether you're left, right or independent.

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Well, I don't remember.

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9

Reversed American decline, dubbed "inevitable" by the liberal academics of the time, and ignited a "rediscovery" of freedom and other core founding values.

Won the Cold War by replacing the inadequate "containment" strategy with a "rollback" strategy, freeing hundreds of millions of people from communist oppression, reducing the chances of overnight nuclear annihilation, and leaving the USA as the world's sole superpower.

Rebuilt a US military ravaged by the post Vietnam era into the greatest fighting force the world had ever seen.

Saved the American economy from decades of drift into a Keynesian, statist direction with massive tax cuts, reforms (e.g. ending inflationary bracket creep), and deregulation (this freeing up boosted industries from trucking to cable tv), ending Carter-era "malaise" and sparking an historic boom that at times saw 8% GDP growth and such massive job growth that net job gains hit over 1 million in a single month in Sep. 1983, while simultaneously conquering soaring, double digit inflation that had become chronic.

The era's so called establishment "experts", especially leftists, claimed all these things were impossible, insisting that inflation couldn't be conquered during a strong economy and that the Soviet Union, which in fairness had been gaining strength vis a vis the US through the late 70s, was here to stay for a very long time. They were wrong and Reagan was right.

I gave a 9 instead of a 10 because of the tragic 1986 illegal alien amnesty, cutting a deal with Democrats for greater border security that they reneged on. But Reagan is one of the greatest presidents in history and it's telling that even Democrats finally started grudgingly acknowledging this in various ways, with Obama and others sometimes comparing themselves to Reagan or saying the Democrats need their version of Reagan.

I'm a conservative libertarian and registered Republican.

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"I'm a conservative libertarian and registered Republican."

Obama and others sometimes comparing themselves to Reagan or saying the Democrats need their version of Reagan.

Obama's tax rates lower than Clinton's.

Clinton's tax rates lower than 1981 Kemp-Roth.

Tax Freedom Day 1979 April 22.

Tax Freedom Day 2019 May 8.

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^Dishonest analysis. Ignored trajectory and impact. It's like saying there was less Cold War violence during Clinton's presidency than Reagan's. Well yeah, that's the point. Unfortunately thanks to Clinton tax rates are higher than where
Reagan ultimately took them (e.g. 28% top marginal rate under Reagan versus 37% today, though down from 39.6% under Obama and more if you count Obamacare taxes still in place). Government spending has increased since FDR's era but its rate of increase has at least slowed since Reagan. That's on top of your "Tax Freedom Day" facts being wrong. Since I've educated you about that on multiple threads now the only sound explanation is that you're knowingly lying.

Your post below includes even more random non sequiturs than usual, and may indicate you're suffering a meltdown.

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Facts beat feels. I've got the facts.

https://taxfoundation.org/tax-freedom-day-2014-data-tables/

All you've got is "Everything would be worse with Democrats."

Why aren't you registered "Independent"?

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No, the facts are on my side.

Tax Freedom Day 2019 May 8.

"Tax Freedom Day 2019 is April 16th"

https://taxfoundation.org/publications/tax-freedom-day/

Your arguments are based on lies and faulty thinking and therefore collapse under scrutiny.
Why aren't you registered "Independent"?

Because I want to vote in primaries.

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Yes, Tax Freedom Day would be January 1 if we paid no taxes and used our China credit card to pay for all of our spending... Idiot... which is why we are where we are today...

IMO you can't call yourself a conservative and a republican. As we discussed at length elsewhere, less than 1/3 of politicians who call themselves conservative actually vote conservative

such as the GOP's 10 Supreme Court justices appointed since Roe V Wade, producing 2 votes to overturn it.

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Only a blind statist would view tax cuts and spending as the same thing, which is why the Tax Foundation labels the two types of freedom days differently. By repeatedly labeling the tax/deficit day as "tax freedom day", you're lying.

Plus, as I've educated you in the past, even your spending point is wrong since your own sources shows spending increasing at a slower rate after Reagan than it did the several decades before Reagan. I wish it would actually reverse, but there are too many Democrats in office for that.

IMO you can't call yourself a conservative and a republican....such as the GOP's 10 Supreme Court justices appointed since Roe V Wade, producing 2 votes to overturn it.

Actually 4 justices supported overturning Roe V Wade in the 1990s Casey case, three of them appointed by Republicans (Rehnquist, Scalia, and Thomas). Byron White was appointed by JFK, the only conservative Democrat President of the 20th Century.

So explain why conservatives should be Democrats instead of Republicans, moron.

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I suggested you register Independent, not Democrat. Or some other party. I don't know what the GOP stands for (well, I do) but it ain't anything conservative or libertarian.

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Like much of the GOP base I've been fed up with the bipartisan establishment class for years, but some Republicans in power are good. Freedom Caucus, justices Thomas and Alito, etc..

I vote in the primaries to help sway the party in my direction, and I support most of the Trump agenda. I've never voted straight ticket, but I've also never voted for a Democrat. In the general election I'll typically vote for at least one or two Libertarians or Independents at the local or state level.

How do you usually vote? Whom did you vote for in 2016?

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You're better off sticking with the 2 out of 10 statistic for the Supreme Court.

The Supreme Court has had a majority GOP appointments since Eisenhower appointed Potter Stewart in 1958 (62 years now for those keeping score at home.)

Since 1953, the GOP has appointed 20 Justices. Democrats have appointed 8 (really only 6 considering the Arthur Goldberg/Abe Fortas fiasco.)

Roe v Wade was a 7-2 decision, 6 in the majority were GOP appointments.

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Republicans have become a lot more conscious of the importance of judicial nominees since then, and the activist rulings of the past have made it a salient political issue. No, I'm not going to ignore judges like Scalia, Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh, and Gorsuch who have been appointed since Roe V Wade. Hopefully someone like Barrett soon to follow.

Trump in particular has been great on the issue, becoming the most transparent presidential candidate in history with the brilliant move of publicizing the list he'd pick from during the campaign and letting the people decide, solidifying his previously shaky conservative support. And then following through and keeping his promise.

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"By repeatedly labeling the tax/deficit day as "tax freedom day", you're lying."

We're just going to have to agree to disagree. When I get my credit card statement at the end of the month I see it as liability, you see yours as an asset.

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Nope. But I do know the difference between a pay stub and a receipt.

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"I gave a 9 instead of a 10 because of the tragic 1986 illegal alien amnesty"

2005 George W. Bush suspends Davis-Bacon Act to get illegal aliens to clean up Hurricane Katrina.

2007 Bush vows to "see you at the bill signing" for McCain Kennedy amnesty.

2017 Trump lets Sholom Rubashkin out of jail.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/sholom-rubashkin-who-is-iowa-kosher-meatpacking-donald-trump-commute-prison-sentence-a8121926.html

"His prosecution came after federal authorities raided the plant and arrested 389 illegal immigrants in 2008."

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I would say a 9 due to the illegal alien amnesty and his signing of the EITC, another Democrat giveaway. All in all the best president we have ever had! The Democrats mock him for his “trickle down economics”, but they seem to forget what Kennedy said...”A rising tide lifts all boats!” Without a doubt the Dems of today would not want Kennedy. He wouldn’t be left wing enough.

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Agreed. JFK had his flaws but at least he was a hawkish anti-communist, a proto supply side tax cutter, and possibly the only genuinely pro American Democrat President of the modern era. His despicable brother Ted was the opposite on all those points.

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What did he do for health care, while he was building up the might of the military?

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I'm an independent and I would rate Reagan's presidency a 7.

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10

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trickel down worked great; also Nancy was best first lady ever she kept hm quiet and a hero

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10 because he single-handedly knocked down The Berlin Wall with his enormous nutsack~My state doesn't have party registration, but if it did I would register as an Independent...

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In a Sep. 28, 1981 speech to the International Chiefs of Police, Reagan claimed that people who commit violent crimes "are not desperate people seeking bread for their families; crime is the way they've chosen to live." [30] This attitude failed to address the stark realities underlying crime, namely the national culture of poverty and discrimination. Violent crime nationwide increased 21% from 1981-1989. [31] The "War on Drugs" wasted billions of dollars and escalated drug-related crime.
Reagan increased the defense budget for an unprecedented six consecutive years. This spending produced an unsustainable bubble in the defense industry that led to decades of restructuring. By the early 1990s the defense industry had too many factories and too many workers to support with its smaller budgets. For example, in the early 1980s there were 50 large defense suppliers to the US government. By 2004 there were five.
Reagan pledged during his 1980 campaign for president to balance the federal budget, but never submitted a balanced budget in his eight years in office. In 1981, the deficit was $79 billion and, in 1986, at the peak of his deficit spending, it stood at $221 billion. The federal debt was $994 billion when he took office in 1981 and grew to $2.9 trillion when his second term ended in 1989. [36] Reagan also added more trade barriers than any other president since Hoover in 1930. US imports that were subject to some form of trade restraint increased from 12% in 1980 to 23% in 1988.
In his two terms in office, Reagan slashed federal aid to schools by more than $1 billion, and he cut the Department of Education budget by 19%. [4] One of Reagan's campaign promises was to abolish the Department of Education, which he considered a "bureaucratic boondoggle." After intermittent attempts to fulfill this promise, he gave up in 1983 due to lack of Congressional support.

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Reagan almost completely ignored the growing AIDS epidemic. Although the first case of AIDS was discovered in the early 1980s, Reagan never publicly addressed the epidemic until May 31, 1987 when he spoke at an AIDS conference in Washington, DC. By that time, 36,058 Americans had been diagnosed with the disease and 20,849 had died.
On Aug. 3, 1981, Reagan ordered 12,176 striking air traffic controllers (PATCO) back to their jobs, disregarding the workers' complaints of stress, staff shortages, and outdated equipment. PATCO was one of the few unions that had endorsed Reagan in the 1980 election. Reagan repaid them by giving them only 48 hours to cancel the strike and banning them from federal service for life. The ban was not lifted until 1993 by President Bill Clinton.
Reagan's over-ambitious space-based laser strategic defensive system, the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI) or "Star Wars," proved to be too technically complex and expensive to complete. [26] From its inception in 1983 to its demise in 1993, the program cost taxpayers $33 billion dollars.
Reagan believed that widespread freeloading plagued welfare and social programs. As Reagan slashed spending in his first term on programs such as food stamps and subsidized housing, the poverty rate climbed from 12% to 15% and unemployment rose from 7% to 11%.

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