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The divisions driven between us are by design.

posted 5 years ago by BuckSwope (3511)
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These divisions exist because the power structure of the world is scared of a unified population. They want us at war. They want us hating each other because of the car we drive and the food we choose to eat. They want us bitching about healthcare while they swallow up billions because we can't decide on a system that serves the people.

They want chaos. It's easy to control. I come across people on forums that I have pretty much fucked with and when we REALLY talk, we agree on most issues. The divide is very small. The powers that be force these issues upon us to divide.

Let's be the first forum to say fuck that shit. Fuck it. The paid trolls will be obvious at that point. Seriously.

If we, as citizens, say "fuck off", we citizens take the power. It's that simple.

In another life, perhaps. It could have been so simple.

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[–] Kowalski (75537) 5 years ago

THE DIVIDE CAN BE FILLED WITH THC.

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[–] BuckSwope (3511) 5 years ago

Sparking a Jay between a group of people will always help. I've seen Mexican girls give top to ICE agents after they already had a pass to enter the U.S.

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[–] ultravioletx (10237) 5 years ago

I kinda disagree. It's not that the elites want chaos. Chaos is the result of the elites only being able to fool some instead of all.

The powerful can't get everyone on board with their propaganda. So we have the side that has been propagandized, and the side that is resistant to it, and they bark at each other trying to get the other side to agree. Division is the result of neither side being able to truly win.

Neither side wants chaos, but both sides will take chaos over the alternative of their side losing out completely.

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[–] BuckSwope (3511) 5 years ago

You just proved my point. Neither side wants to give ground because of divisions put in place by the powers that be. The divisions would not be there unless the money put it there.

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[–] BuckSwope (3511) 5 years ago

It's like landmines.....they present a divisive issue like abortion.....or healthcare....and let us plebs run into the breach and get blown the fuck up.

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[–] politicanuck (19) 5 years ago

I mean I partly degree. its pretty accepted in political science that the elite have the most class cohesion. It makes sense. but even within them they have competing interests. But yes I am sure they have a lot more in common a work together to weapon the poor and middle class.

overall the biggest issue with the USA is the lack of ability to work out cleavages.

in a normal political system these cleavages(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleavage_(politics))

"Cleavage separates the voters into advocates and adversaries on a certain issue, or voting for a certain party." the problem is that democracy lets you work out the tension in society through elections.

so what happens when you have a two party duopoly that only represents a handful of people? the majority become frustrated, disillusioned, angry and sick of it. Hence the populist support for Donalds trump and now for Bernie Sanders

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[–] BuckSwope (3511) 5 years ago

OK.....I understand your point. The U.S. is getting ready to go down a road where the executive branch is all-powerful. Democracy is no longer.

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[–] politicanuck (19) 5 years ago

Meh id say it was never as democratic as a parliamentary system. But over the years (centuries in the making) the corporate claws in the system have made it so all three branches constantly serve and rule in favor of corporations and the wealthy. The USA has consistently further and further slid into an indirectly controlled Oligarchy where the rich nd elite rule in all but name.

I didn't make that point about the executive (even if it may be true)

My point is that when tension in the system (citizens angry about issues) cant have that pressure released from the system. and hence they become frustrated. If I don't like one party in my country, I have 5 others I can vote for who can represent me.

you don't have that in the usa

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[–] BuckSwope (3511) 5 years ago

Well said. We do not have that. We don't even have universal healthcare. People die and/or go bankrupt here.

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[–] politicanuck (19) 5 years ago

yaa i don't live there man but im a progressive ally. even the conservatives in Canada are disgusted by the us health care system.

I don't know how you guys do it.

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