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thanks for the reply!
agreed. Weirdest self sacrifice. Kick that mo fo off your boot!
I agree - I went in with no information and wasn't sure where it was going to go. It created a real mystery and then proceeded to logically answer all of its questions. It was really put together intelligently.
they make a point, repeatedly, that the husband wasn't there when the wife died, even though the daughter tried to call him 8 times and they waited a hell of a long time to show up, because he was out drinking and making out with the cop. Agreed that the mom's deathbed confession should have/would have been to the husband if he had been there. So she had to make due. I also agree she shouldn't have burdened her daughter with it regardless.
and yet, the particular white folk in the film were bad.
at the moment it is on Hoopla and Tubi
They manipulated him into betraying and killing his wife. Then made him confess to it. Then told him his mistress who he did it for was playing him the whole time. Then told him they had poisoned him 8 hours ago and were just fucking with him until he died.
pretty amazing payback and revenge. that's why they didn't just kill him.
Just watched this last night, so I'll do my best here
1. I think the policeman and his daughter were also injured and trapped in the car after the crash (they were up against a wall on the driver's side, and the car was smashed on the passenger side) just not fatally injured. they had to wait to be discovered and rescued while they sat alongside the wife who was slowly dying.
2. I think the detective was not real - Jaime and his daughter produced the photos and recordings of Alex cheating themselves, and planted the detective paperwork in the dossier of information from the wife. I believe that Javier Alonso may have been a false front created by the detective . . . when the regular police search his office, his computer is gone and his records are gone as if he has fled, but he may never have existed in the first place.
3. I think the guard was randomly run down by a random passing car. Scaring him at the morgue was certainly part of the plan (to emphasize the missing body and pull Alex into the morgue for questioning), but him getting hit him with a car I think was just a sad accident. It does allow Eva/Carla to pretend she is getting information from the nurses though.
4. Eva plants the evidence in Alex's car - the shovel, the shoes, and the balaclava, among other things - while Alex and his motorcycle are with Jaime at the morgue. Jaime was the one who took and moved the body to the woods, then presumably left the evidence somewhere Eva could get it.
5. I think yes - only he and his daughter are in on the scheme, and she is out busy planting evidence and making/taking phone calls from Alex all night, so Jaime is doing all of the things at the morgue. Especially moving the box of belongings around, planting the toxin, etc.
Agreed, it is such a pleasure watching a smart character make smart choices based on the information she has. i've enjoyed her more each time I've watched it.
The hitmen could have easily killed the parents before the children arrived and finished them off soon after. They waited for the dinner for effect, I guess.
spoiler alert
well, it certainly would have been a much different movie, some like The Strangers maybe.
Part of what makes this movie so good, and hurt so much on an emotional level is the betrayal. Felix urging Aimee to run out the door at full speed. Zee staring at everything wide eyed but not really surprised. And of course, the full reveal at the end.
I thought that maybe the family portrait would have them standing in birth order. That picture shows, left to right, Felix, then Crispian, Drake, and then Aimee.
Spoiler Alert.
Crispian was lying to Erin. She was meant to be killed along with everyone else, because this would further take suspicion off of Crispian ("who me, benefit from my family's death? I couldn't have done it, I lost my dear girlfriend in the attack"). Erin figures this out, which explains her actions at the end. He knew that Erin wouldn't go along with the plan, and so would sadly sacrifice her to make his loss seem more real.
Thanks, this is the correct answer. I think it is the last family member who explains it to Erin at the end, it was meant to make the attacks seem like part of a random cluster.
I agree, it was really well done, stylish, and beautifully shot. Well acted, and with a great creepy tone.
obvious troll is obvious
I totally agree - she was amazing in this and I'm looking forward to seeing more of her
They also explained it. The escape capsules were programmed to automatically return to earth without a manual override. David was planning to fight and resist the creature and hold the manual override for as long as he could, hopefully long enough that the capsule couldn't return to earth. But the creature broke his grip on the controls and the automatic protocol took over before he got far enough away.
Miranda's capsule malfunctioned in the launch. The direction just obscured which capsule was which until the last scene.
What a downer ending though.
You are absolutely right. There is no "thrill" except a husband spending all of a family's money on his manic dreams to be a big shot, and the family trying to deal with it, each in their own way. I was also disappointed with the lack of events.
That's my complaint with it - similar to the original Terminator, the time loop is interesting but it could never have started.