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None of them were evil.
Firstly, evil isn’t a thing, that implies that the person can’t help what they do and r*ping someone is absolutely a choice.
And yes, we should believe all victims. Why wouldn’t you?
It isn’t woke to question r*pe culture.
Because those movies all show r*pe explicitly, less so in deliverance because they couldn’t sexualise Male victims oBvIouSly.
Like 1/3 of ISOYG is a r*pe scene and everyone knows about that 10 minute scene in Irréversible.
This movie isn’t about r*pe, it’s about r*pe culture. I guess white men can separate themselves from evil backwoods r*pists but they have a harder time justifying separating themselves from r*pe culture and their general part in it.
No one is good in this movie. Except Laverne Cox.
Everyone is flawed. Her parents are supportive physically but not emotionally. Cassie is flawed as hell. Ryan respects her boundaries and genuinely loves her, but he was also involved in her best friends assault, as a witness at least. Adam Brody is the one who tells his friends to stop being gross but then he takes advantage of her being so drunk and assaults her. Connie Britton is and was dismissive about claims made by Nina, brushing it under the rug like colleges do be doing. Cassie is disgusting for involving the Deans daughter, in any way.
None of the men were shown as evil, this stuff literally happens all the time, to girls who don’t have Cassies advantage and autonomy. And men and women alike brush it under the rug and make excuses. The title is literally a subversion on a phrase used to describe a man who took advantage of a woman at their college just like in the movie.
This movie isn’t about date r*pe either, it’s about r*pe culture. None of the men drugged Cassie, none of them were implicit in her being ‘drunk’. They just took advantage of the fact that she (seemingly) was. Date r*pe implies intent, which instantly demonises the r*pist.
Coming across someone who is out of it and deciding on the spot that you’re gonna use this to your advantage is just as insidious as meditated assault, but it’s brushed off by media, government and law enforcement and the general population. This movie is commenting on r*pe culture, it’s not demonising anyone.
Also, the things she was avenging happened to her. Nina being assaulted, becoming depressed, ending her life, that all happened to her. Literally and figuratively.
There’s a reason this movie resonates with women, because we have all experienced varying levels of the kind of things which happened in this movie.
This movie isn’t insulting white men, it’s criticising r*pe culture. It also shows that women are complicit in that, in fact we see Cassie treat the Dean, a Woman, with the most venom. That scene is one of the most uncomfortable scenes in the film.
The movie also isn’t saying anything about anyone that isn’t true and societally timely. It’s a very realistic movie at its core.
The title is even based on a real life case, albeit a subversion.
You need kindling of some description to get the fire to start burning in the first place. If they were using matches or a lighter then they’d waste the matches/fuel trying to get the wood to light.
Plus varnish. Plus they needed instant heat.
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
So you didn’t watch the movie then? Or you certainly didn’t pay attention.
Some wanted to be black, yes, others wanted the biological traits, others just wanted their eyes man.
It’s ok if you don’t understand satire and need a solemn cheese fest like Signs featuring the universes dumbest aliens.
Both Get Out and Us are social horrors, which are more scary to me than some ghost kid puking in a tent.
It’s literally explained in the plot buddy. If it went over your head I really don’t know what to say.
That’s a pretty huge plot hole. Why would anyone invade a planet which is covered in what kills them?
Shyamalan made one good horror movie and one good thriller. The rest are beyond terrible.
Yeah Peele has only made two movies but they’ve both been incredible horror movies and have refreshed the genre which was in dire need of refreshment.
Shyamalan hasn’t made anything good since Unbreakable.
Quality over quantity.
Signs was awful - a genius alien race allergic to water come to a planet covered in water.
Split was a really awful depiction of DID and was just bad.
The other two are his best films.
Peele is technically a much better director who doesn’t really solely on cheap jump scares and who knows how to build tension. He’s also a much better writer.
Shyamalan made two good movies, and one of them wasn’t really a horror. The rest of his movies are awful, with very little substance.
Us, and Get Out even more so we’re both excellent, original movies with a lot of important social commentary.
Jordan Peele is a far better writer/Director than Shyamalan.
I just saw this with my friend and she said the same thing. I don’t get it, I like the comedy as it normalises the situation and that’s scarier to me than constant tension.
Peele lulls you into a false sense of security. Kinda like life.
My thoughts
1. “Adelaide” was treated for severe PTSD and her parents were doing anything they could to help her forget about that night. Remember, they think she just got lost in the mirror maze and freaked out. It showed them taking her to dance lessons like the therapist suggested.
I’m guessing they continued with the therapy on top of this and she just suppressed it. She was a little kid, desperately trying to become the real Adelaide so it’s not a stretch to believe she wouldn’t have forgotten.
2. She was locked up and scared. Because the tethered didn’t have souls, she was likely there for a while tied to the bed. She was again, a little kid and would have been terrified, plus she was nearly just strangled to death. We also don’t know that they aren’t being watched by whoever created them. They might have tightened security after they saw what happened. Clearly other tethered people weren’t leaving en masse otherwise they’d be public knowledge.
3. Some arm of the government. Like they’re cloning shit already. They cloned a sheep when I was a kid. It’s not that far fetched.
They kept appearing because Red organised them. She trained them and told them what to do. She let them know what they were missing and created a movement.
4. Adelaide remembered it. When they were on the way to the cottage she saw the now old man with the sign and it jogged her supressed memories. Then her son went missing and that jogged her memory. You see her become more aware of it as the holiday progresses. We also hear a little exposition with the news reporting on it etc.
5. Red I guess (real kid Adelaide) was seen watching TV at the start of the movie. There’s an advert for hands for humanity, a real thing in the 80’s. It was like a vigil I guess where people stood hand in hand.
She’s also wearing a t-shirt with it on before she gets the Thriller t-shirt. She was like 5 or 6 when she went down there. She obviously based her movement/escape on it.