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There's a lot of truth in that.
I fall into the 40+ crowd. Born the year Star Wars came out. Saw Return of the Jedi in Theaters. Was SOOO stoked for the Special Editions to released in theaters! Played Star Wars RPGs with friends. Waited in line for 4 hours to see the midnight show of The Phantom Menace. Annnnd...
I had an epiphany. George Lucas wasn't this grand sage of sci-fi brilliance I'd elevated since I was a child. He's just a dude. Like me. Makes movies. Fun movies. Not perfect. But doesn't have to be.
Shrug. I guess that was the adult in me slaying my inner youngling.
I'm tired of coddling dumbsh..s though. When somebody does a "review" of The Last Jedi and say it's "Objectively" bad---Saying you CAN'T like the movie cause it's an objectively bad film...
...I'm calling you out on your entitled sense of stupid.
Thanks ADBruno!
I'd argue---What choices did Rian Johnson have?
The Force Awakens was---for all intents and purposes here---a soft remake of A New Hope.
Rian Johnson could've taken the next entry and did it EXACTLY like Empire Strikes Back. Luke trains Rey. Her friends go to a floating city and get betrayed by one of Poe's old war buddies. Perhaps Finn gets frozen in carbonite. Rey cuts training short. She leaves to rescue her friends. She has a showdown with Kylo Ren. He reveals to her that she's his long lost sister (or some shit like that). And so on... And so on... And so on...
Do you see the problem here?
Rian Johnson took the expected script and flipped it on its head. NOW---
---The next guy (J.J. Abrams as it turns out) is forced to come up with something COMPLETELY NEW AND ORGINAL!
DAH-DAHH-DAHHHHH!!!
I swear I'm scratching my head at this. Why is this a bad thing again???
Oh...no, no, no...didn't mean to imply that at all.
Please, by all means---Nitpick the shite outta Rey's character!
But once someone uses the term "Mary-Sue"....Dude...
That's not criticism. And those who use it---know it.
Maybe I'm remembering it wrong, or conflating your post with another. If so I apologize.
The reason I was hesitant to post at all is that this board is filled with these crazy notions that if you genuinely loved this movie---flaws and all---YOU'RE A DISNEY SHILL. Or a SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIOR. Or a FEMINIST.
Crickets.
What...the...eff...are these people talking about?! That's the stupidest crap basket I've ever heard. I ain't got time for that nonsense. And I imagine most other people who enjoyed the movie feel the same.
So these boards and YouTube are filled with vitriol towards anyone who liked The Last Jedi. I don't blame ANYBODY for not chiming in their two-cents.
And when people are posting topics like "Why does Rey HAVE to be Female?"---And laughably taking no other answer that doesn't mirror their own. Petitions for a Episode 8 to be stricken from the Canon. Wtf?? It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so rampant.
I'm all for discussing movies. I LOVE to nit-pick! But discuss the movie.
I hate to break it to some folks, but there happens to be two sexes on this planet. There was a 50/50 shot that a Star Wars trilogy would one day feature a Female protagonist. This "Mary-Sue" crap is obvious. We all know what it's really about. Your not fooling anybody guys.
There's no imaginary CONSPIRACY by Rian Johnson to supplant anyone's childhood. I mean, really??
So the crux of your issue has more to do with the too-quick execution of making The Force Awakens. Okay. I get it. In some ways I agree with you. But not enough to suck my enjoyment from the ones they did make.
I liked The Force Awakens for pretty much the same reasons everyone did. Yeah, yeah...it was pretty much a shot-for-shot nostalgic callback to A New Hope. And I generally agree with the consensus and give it a pass. I just don't care. As said by others, "It really brings that old classic Star Wars feeling." And that just warmed my nostalgic heart.
Now I didn't spend two years pouring through YouTube videos for theories, but I would on occasion think about what-ifs. After a while I noticed most of my thoughts seemed to follow the EXACT SAME FORMULA as the original trilogy. Luke trains Rey like Yoda trained him. Snoke manipulates Kylo Ren while actually wanting Rey to supplant him.
What about Finn's backstory as a child-slave-Stormtrooper-trainee---thought THAT might be a cool avenue to explore. Did he have friends? What about that trooper from Awakens who wiped the blood across his forehead. Did Finn know him?
This was the kind of stuff I was curious about after watching Force Awakens. I didn't care about Rey's parents---Especially since they SAID Rey's parents were nobodies IN THE FORCE AWAKENS.
Maz Kanata says to her, "Dear child. I see your eyes. You already know the truth. Whomever you're waiting for on Jakku... they're never coming back." Did everyone get selective amnesia??
Went on a tangent. (You didn't say anything about Rey's parentage.)
Back to your points. So Disney should be held to a higher standard than George Lucas? You act like the original trilogy had this grandiose master plan! It didn't. Leia makes out with her brother?? Come on.
Movies are being made faster, and more are released every year. That's just the evolution of the business. Competition. Be happy you're getting Star Wars movies, period.
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