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And it gets worse

posted 4 years ago by Esterhowse (468)
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Sharon showed up, and she was like f you guys, but okay let’s go back to my place, then she was able to find the location of Nadel, which is super secret, in like 1 min, while 3 fugitives were clubbing and awkward dancing, except they are super recognizable and have bounties on their head, and the whole scene was just necessary. Oh the phone call from Sarah to Sam during the conversation with Shelby was fucking stupid as hell. And uhhh sure that Cap had never even attempted to contact Sharon since civil war? Cap himself was back in the states, on avengers compound. But anyway. Then they went to find Nadel and assasins... and zemo put on the mask (cue suspenseful music), shot 3 ppl, and took the mask right off (ends suspenseful music)and found a car that... I guess his family just happened to hide before sokovia and it just happened to be on the same pier too. Ugh. You know when writings are bad? When they are forced, or unnecessary, and in this case, it’s both.

The dialogue between Sam and Bucky on the plane after Madripoor made no sense either. When cap was alive had the shield, there wasn’t a problem with ownership of the shield, and after that I went to Bucky and to the new cap. Who did it exactly steamrolled? And how did that connect with Sharon? Sharon didn’t get steamrolled because of the shield if that’s what it was implying... so I have no idea what it was talking about. I just don’t understand how that logic worked.

Bucky: I have a plan. Sam: no it’s a bad plan but what is it? Bucky: we don’t know what we are doing, let’s break out Zemos and hire him as our captain. Sam: what do you mean by captain !? Bucky: he will tell us where to go, what we should do, and we get to ride his own private plan and eat the food he provides Sam: sounds like an awesome plan, let’s do it.

Seriously what ..the ... fuck

[–] kuatorises (7467) 4 years ago

Sharon is a dick. I don't like her, and thought it was hilarious Bucky called her out for being a dick, but I understand her feelings. Every superhero that took part in the Civil War was pardoned. Sharon was not. Her being bitter makes sense. I like the espionage/military aspect of this show. Aliens, witches, space beings get old. The more real world feel of this are why Civil War and The Winter Solider are two of the most popular movies in the series.

I also liked the Madripor stuff. I would love to see more of that place. A seedy underground teeming with criminals - both petty and larger scale, perverts, mercenaries, etc.? Sounds fun.

But I don't really understand what Bucky and Sam want and how Zemo plays a part in this. It seems Bucky and Sam care more about taking the shield from Walker - who's done nothing wrong - than stopping terrorists. It just reminds me of why I'm not crazy about either of them in the first place. More of this, "bUt HE's mY FRiENd" crap. And they need Zemo because...?

[–] Goliard (1449) 4 years ago

"I also liked the Madripor stuff. I would love to see more of that place. A seedy underground teeming with criminals - both petty and larger scale, perverts, mercenaries, etc.? Sounds fun."

It's taken directly from the comics. Check out some of the Wolverine/X-Men titles; some really good stories there. Wolverine lived there for a good while; he goes by the alias "Patch."

[–] kuatorises (7467) 4 years ago

You just jolted a memory. I don't remember the name Madripor at all. Still didn't when I saw the show. But you said Patch and I'm having major flashbacks right now.