In the first episode, when he pointed out that it was the Avengers that traveled in time, causing the disruption to the time line, and thus not his responsibility,
that should have worked. He could have been judged to be a variant, but not at fault. That would be a perfect reason for him to be drafted. Not guilty enough to be killed, but still not able to return to the timeline.
The TVA wanted to sic him on the variant Lokis, so they weren't about to say "Oh, my bad!", and send him home, even if you and he are totally right.
Seriously, I've thought from the beginning that most or all of what they tell the variants is somewhere on a spectrum leading from oversimplification to complete bullshit, and well - it looks like they lied about where all the TVA workers came from. I think we're going to find out about a lot more untruths as the show goes on, as we can hardly accept Loki as the hero or even antihero of the story, unless he's pitted against someone worse than himself.
Obviously, there is something wrong with the TVA. Reddit fan theory speculates the TVA is the ultimate villain. My guess is some ultimate villain has already hijacked the leadership and turn them into muppets.
shareNow that we know for sure (or do we?) that something very shady is going on with the TVA, it seems clear to me they never intended to give Loki a fair trial, ya know. Could a certain Kang be behind it all? Hehe. We’ll see what goes down.
shareLoki did not even travel in time, only in space by using space stone, so his only crime was he did not go to prison as he supposed to. And if he was guilty shouldn't the timeline have been erased and endgame story gone?
So it seems anything or anyone stopped avengers to succeed is guilty, I can only imagine some sort of nepotism is in play or Stan Lee is running TVA.
The entire thing is just stupid.
I get the feel that the TVA is being presented as a corrupt or oppressive enforcement agency. The obvious injustices I think will be shown to be caused by the TVA being an unjust organization.
After all, how can we redeem Loki, unless we pit him against an enemy who is far worse than he is?
TVA is not corrupt. To be corrupt you have to do all this for personal gain or profit, I don't see anything like that. Oppressive, maybe, to be point of ridiculousness.
Loki was already redeemed in infinity war when he tried to save his brother and assassinated Thanos.
Loki is always going to be Loki, he is always going to have an angle, that is why he was so interesting.
But he was supposed to possess superior intelligence, full of tricks and deceptions, not a buffoon like what we saw in the pilot.
I don't reject the premise of the show, but it should have been done in an intelligent way, but obviously not enough talent and resources are involved in this show. The low budget is shown clearly in the pilot.
I agree that they undermined him in the pilot by showing him as a buffoon.
That is part of my point. If he had successfully defended himself from the charges, ie just talked his way out of a Death Sentence in a trial that was obviously meant to be grossly unfair, and that is what led to him "working for" the TVA,
that would have been impressive.
Fair point about him trying to save his brother too...but he was responsible for a lot of death and destruction... he could use some more redeeming. Not to make him a "hero", but just more in the grey area of "Mischief" not "Evil".
Indeed, if he maneuvered to cooperate with DVA for some angle to take control some day, it would have made more sense, because that is pure Loki.
Not falling for some amateur psychology analysis from a TVA detective, that is just weak, and if a TVA detective can do that then what they need Loki for, clearly they know Loki better than himself.
The whole thing falls apart if we use our brain even a little.
The first episode flat out states someone being late for work when it wasn’t pre-ordained by the Sacred Timeline would be considered a variant. Episode 3 reveals many variants are brainwashed into becoming agents, so it’s obvious what the real purpose is. It’s just weird that many people apparently don’t understand the TVA is evil and arbitrary.
shareTo be evil, there has to be personal gain or profit, I don't see anything like that. It is more like god complex, and lack of real motives.
shareWho said there isn’t a motive or personal gain?
shareThey use infinite stones as paper weight, so what is the gain?
shareYou know there are three more episodes, right?
shareSo you don't know, at least not yet. You just don't like them, that is about it.
shareWhat do you mean I don’t like them? Pointing out that evil people do evil things is just me paying attention to the show I’m watching.
shareDo you remember Spanish inquisition? Was the church evil? So far TVA seemed to be purer than the church back then, and I don't think the church has really changed, they just do not have the power anymore. And they are brainwashing countless people to work for them so to speak if you think about it.
The answer is not so clear now, is it?
I think it’s very clear in both situations.
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