Are we to accept now that force sensitive users just know how to heal wounds now? This and Rise of Skywalker... it's like a normal thing for jedi now. Who needs a hospital when you can get a Jedi to heal you nearby. Also, baby yoda seems to know how to heal and force choke at the same time. Is he a universal jedi now that encompasses both dark/light force powers into one being? Is he/she the new chosen one?
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shareUsing the Force to heal has long been a power in the books and video games. It just hasn’t been shown in the movies much. Some say Qui-Gon was using Force Heal on himself when stuck b/w the force shields during the fight w/ Darth Maul.
shareYou have proof about force healing being in the books? Who cares about video game storyline.
shareForce healing was in the Jedi Apprentice book series. There were Jedi who specialized in it.
shareThose books and games aren’t canon.
In the canon series force healing is only just now appearing.
Force healing has been around for years but this is the first time it’s being used in a canon series. Doing so has created massive issues for the series and hurts the series a lot in terms of it not making one single bit of sense that this power has never been mentioned or seen until now in the canon series.
Force healing was in Clone Wars which is considered canon.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Jedi_healer
In some books yes but reading the synopis for those books it seems up in the air on if this was just Jedis who were healers aka doctors or if force heal was actually used. It's seeming more likely they were just doctors and didn't use the force to heal. Everything else was legends and other searches I have done don't mention these books as times force healing was used.
shareClone Wars is a cartoon which is canon.
If you were more aware of the EU, then you'd know that all Jedi learned Force healing. A few Jedi specialized in it. They weren't doctors.
Not all Jedi fought or did diplomacy. Some were farmers, librarians (Jocasta Nu in Phantom Menace) or healers. They weren't doctors.
BTW, Force healing isn't used properly in Disney Wars. I'm not sure why you're taking the Disney crap so seriously when it's obviously poorly written garbage.
No shit Sherlock but the only mention in the link YOU provided was about the books not the cartoon. It mentions the clone wars but that part of the description was talking about legends not canon.
Actually I am and I did know that but it has no relevance to the discussion at hand because EU is not canon.
Because that’s the stuff we are talking about you absolute Buffon. We aren’t talking about Star Wars force healing in the overall we are talking about it in regards to the Disney shows and the canonical Star Wars movies nothing more nothing less.
Step off your high horse there mate because nothing you have said has had any relevance to the discussion.
"because EU is not canon"
If you want to stupidly consider anything that Disney dictates as being canon then some of the EU is canon because Disney is slowly reintroducing it as canon. Force healing is used in the ST therefore it's canon too. Case closed.
You really aren’t to bright are you?
Again no shit they are using some of it. The stuff they are using then becomes canon but only for how it is done in the shows and movies and books created by Disney, not how it is done in the EU.
Also of course that’s what I’m using as canon because that’s what is canon, even on the shit you linked me too they have canon and then legends that you can select, clearly showing the two different versions of the Star Wars lore.
So yes force healing is canon now but only in what has been shown in the movies and tv show, not anything else.
I'm brighter than you are because you're the one taking a bunch of hacks that Disney hired to ruin Star Wars seriously. Disney's ONLY motive was to make money.
George Lucas' motives were experimental filmmaking which he achieved twice in two different eras completely revolutionizing the movie industry: OT-realistic SFX techniques, Dolby sound, Pixar, quality B-movie (also merchandising, blockbusters) and PT- CGI SFX, photoshop, CGI characters(Jarjar the first), digital filmmaking
Lucas' movies had underlying themes. Story, design and characters were important.
Also Lucas cared about SW quality and continuity. Other writers consulted an SW Bible.
I never had a problem reading the EU books because they didn't conflict with anything I saw in the movies.
BTW, Force healing was never used in an over-the-top way in the books. A minor wound could be healed or an exhausted Jedi could slowly regain energy over hours using the Force. Not the nonsense about returning people from the dead.
You can consider that Disney crapola canon if you want. I'll continue to consider Lucas' children who were sold to the white slavers and tossed in the garbage by Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy as the only true canon. Art trumps hack any day of the week!
Pardon me as I return to my book "Dark Force Rising" by Timothy Zahn, the true canon ST Episode 8.
I never said they weren’t hacks. I for one hate how Disney handled the movies. But that doesn’t change the fact for one second that in the Star Wars universe canonically, there had been no healing abilities until baby YODA and the movie. Hate Disney all you want but that is the fact of the situation and what most Star Wars fans have accepted, EU is now legends and the movies and shows and books released by Disney are the canon.
Good for you all of what you just said means nothing.
Except it’s not canon even before Disney took over the EU was never canon you do realise that right? It was always just extra but it was never created by Lucas or anything. The only canon was the movies and the shows.
You are honestly an idiot. A blind fanboy idiot that ruins the Star Wars fan base with your silly attitude. No matter what you think that isn’t the truth and the FACTS aka the things that matter and go against everything you say, is that there is a canon Star Wars and then there is the fan fiction that was EU.
Disney Wars is fan fiction.
It's not fact. Merely a temporary and ever-changing decision by a corporate suit. Kennedy and crew were too lazy to acquaint themselves with the EU which is why they originally tossed it.
"most Star Wars fans have accepted"
If most SW fans accept Disney crap, then they deserve bad movies.
Actually, revolutionizing the movie industry twice means plenty. Thanks Mr. Lucas!
"I for one hate how Disney handled the movies."
But you'll pay money to see them and complain how Force healing is used. That makes you the idiot.
At least I'm saving my money by no longer spending it on SW crap and I get to enjoy my SW books from the library written when Lucas used some quality control.
I wish it was believe me. But it’s not and just something you have to accept.
I agree they should have looked to the EU for stories and ideas of where to go with Star Wars. They have shown they are willing to do that by bringing in force healing and certain characters from the EU.
Again your comment doesn’t mean anything in regards to what we are talking about and is blind fanboyism that ruins the fan base with your attitude.
When did I say I saw the movie? I read what happened and never saw the movie because I was so pissed off with what they did with the movie. I got disneyplus though because it has heaps of movies I can watch and I share it with my friends who have kids. The mandorlorian was excellent though and adds to the Star Wars universe. Not shit on it like the movie did. So way to make yourself look like the idiot, idiot.
Dude.... you do realise Lucas didn’t have a thing to do with the Star Wars EU right? It was all third party stuff and he didn’t put any input into the books. All Lucas has ever been involved in is the movies, some parts of the tv shows and I believe some games that didn’t get made. That’s it.
Fan fiction rehashes from the original and never moves the story forward with any originality. Disney Wars = bad fan fiction.
"Lucas' movies had underlying themes. Story, design and characters were important. Also Lucas cared about SW quality and continuity. Other writers consulted an SW Bible."
"Again your comment doesn’t mean anything"
Totally disagree. Lucas cared about the quality of the movies vs. Disney not caring has everything to do with why we are getting bad movies which make no sense.
Mandalorian isn't excellent. Perhaps good or very good, but no real originality. More rehashing from the OT including "Baby Yoda". Basically good fan fiction.
"you do realise Lucas didn’t have a thing to do with the Star Wars EU right?"
Of course, he did. His company and he was a control freak. He didn't read every book, of course. But his approval and guidance needed for decisions and overall direction. No need to sell the co. if he was just sitting on his butt. Only Lucas could've approved giving the Jedi Knight 2 game engine along with art & sound effects to fans in order for them to do a Dark Forces game update. Also created a fanfiction contest when he found out about the videos instead of suing like co. did with Trekkies. He was completely cool with the fans (ingrates imho). SW bible was his idea to keep continuity. He was the one who refused OT DVDs, and allowing OT on TV and videos for years.
Bob Iger said Lucas' reaction to his treatment not being used and his disappointment with Force Awakens lack of originality shows that Lucas cared about story and direction of SW. That's not characteristic of someone who isn't involved as an owner and creative.
You are just saying the same stuff I have already countered numerous times.
Also Lucas isn’t that great, the constant changes he made to Star Wars over the years messes things up a lot and a lot of people said the games he was involved in didn’t end up getting made most times because he kept changing things and messing things up. That’s why shitloads of people were happy when Disney took over because they were hoping they would get things back on track. Unfortunately they didn’t and have messed things up with the movies. Your blind fanboyism is just sad at this point sorry.
"You are just saying the same stuff I have already countered numerous times."
Probably because it's true.
The theatrical OT which is the only version I watch are classics, great and were groundbreaking. I don't care if he wants to reedit as long as the originals are available.
I played plenty of Lucasarts games (mainly SW) which were also groundbreaking and fun. I know Disney cancelled one and Lucas cancelled another game which wasn't SW and seemed unpopular. Why waste millions on a game that nobody wants?
Disney under Walt Disney was a creative, artistic and innovative company. That's the company Lucas thought he sold SW. Unfortunately for Lucas, Disney died and Disney co. morphed into a factory conveyor belt spewing out uncreative mediocre films for only money.
"they didn’t and have messed things up with the movies."
You're not capable of understanding the difference between a creative product from an artist vs. an executive. That difference has everything to do with why Disney isn't able to create a good SW movie.
"Your blind fanboyism"
Nonsense. I acknowledge that Walt Disney was an artist and innovator, but personally I detest him - a racist, anti-Semite and possible Nazi sympathizer.
Calling Lucas an innovator and artist is actually the truth.
Seriously, check out Lucas' new art museum which he's building with his own money and tell me the guy isn't an innovator.
https://lucasmuseum.org/building
The Force must give some awesome powers to Jedi Librarians to sort those books according to the Dewey Decimal System in record time or to silence rude people who are talking in the library, no doubt with a bit of that "Force choke" technique.
shareWhich games are you referring to? I've played most of the Star Wars games and I don't even recall a force heal. Bacta tanks, sure. I guess Knights of the Old Republic had it but that was it and it was RPG element type style so of course they'd add something like that.
As for Qui-Gon, he wasn't force healing, he was meditating to conserve as well as focus his energy/stamina/chi as he was tired as heck while Maul didn't show a hint of sweat. If you want to talk force heal then Obi-Wan should've ran to him and healed him after defeating Maul.
Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast, the only Star Wars game worth playing.
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