I think he felt different from everyone else because of where he came from and almost resented being singled out as a success story. He mentioned his mother not being able to pronounce his name twice. Well once when he was practicing his speech. Maybe this lead to how he felt? And turned him against everyone? Just a thought.
shareYes, he was clearly a sociopath and I hope we get a sequel so he gets his just desserts.
shareI think there are a lot of different facets to this movie. It isn't so black and white.
shareThe movie didn’t know what it wanted to be. It was trying to be deeper than what it actually was. Which is a movie where a crazy student manipulated people to get back at those he feels have wronged him. Honestly this movie falls apart the moment someone actually acts like a normal person.
sharei agree
shareI just finished watching it, and I feel like this is a really toxic movie that craps all over its viewers with meaningless ugliness. Was it about Luce himself, or the kind of person who succeeds in our society? What does a family do when they find out a very successful member is psychopathic criminal with no limits, conscience or respect for society? Done before Trump's sister and niece came out about Donald's character, and still Trump supporters are just as cowed as the parents in this movie.
shareI really don't think so. Luce was a very normal teenager. He is bright but also mischievous. He just had crackers in the locker, for fooling around with his buddies. Hell, I had some in boarding school and burst them near the headmistress's residence.
Harriet was hell-bent on punishing the mediocre students (De Shaun) and idolizing the good ones (Luce). For her, there's no in-between. And that's why Luce acts out. It's a typical behaviour teenager's would show in order to rebel.
If it was typical behavior I doubt it would go into a movie.
shareWell, not every movie needs to have a psycho or ironman in it. It doesn't even hint at anything psychotic by the way. Lying and having fireworks if considered psychotic, most of the students will be labelled as teenage psychos. The point it made was that even Luce's parents lied to protect the idea/image they had created.
I concur with Luce and his dad, Harriet was a bitch.
Yeah, and once labelled a bitch and dehumanized anything you do in retaliation is justified. You sound not really fit for civilization, and yet you are in one aren't you?
shareYou are forgetting she reported De Shaun and got his scholarship cancelled. Until the very end, he did not retaliate at all. They just had dialogues between them Your ears are great by the way. They heard the sound of typing and even formed a prejudice without knowing me. You are the perfect match for Harriet. You two would make a solid antisocial couple.
shareWe all have to put up with imperfect teachers. Maybe all yours were perfect, or those that work you terrorized and got fired?
shareNot perfect but very considerate. Considerate enough not to spoil my education for every small thing by reporting them to the police.
shareThe bottom line to me was, that no matter what, it was a psychopathic way to deal with things that proved these two were perhaps ready to try to exist in Trump-world, but certainly not fit for any human interactions with people. Only psychopaths if they knew the whole story, as the viewer of the movie does, would think those people were cool, or want to be around them in real life.
Another thing about this movie was that it is convoluted with a lot of different things going on at the same time which were pretty unbelievable.
The white couple adopting a black kid, and the relationship between the parents and kid. It was just pure creepy. No wonder the kid grew up to be a creep. The portrayal of the parents were unbelievable, but because they are portrayed as bad parents, it is accepted by the viewer, because of course in movieland all parents and authority figures are bad ... only the kids can be good.
I notice this change in TV and movies as I grew up, all the roles were reversed all the time. The kids suddenly were the ones who knew everything, if it was man and women - it was the women who was always right. Black and white, it was the black point of view that was always right.
This is a kind of proper set up for certain plots but it becomes invisible after a while and people do not even think about it. Like certain plots don't work, there are stereotypes, and this movie just manipulated stereotypes in a clever but meaningless way.