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A scene I felt was unnecessary


The one where he is at home shirtless and dancing with the gun in his hand, talking to himself saying something like 'hey you're a nice dancer, I know...' and then accidentally shoots at the wall later telling his mom that he's watching an old war movie.

What was the purpose of this scene? I felt it boring and unnecessary.

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To show that the gun is real and loaded.

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The scene I felt was unnecessary was him washing his mother in the tub. Why did he even do that, it's not like she was paralyzed.


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It showed that he was once a very caring person.

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Come on, that's not a healthy boundary with one's parent.


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Yes it is if you have no money and no one else is there to take care of her.

The reason he went so crazy is because he was so nice.

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Except that that wasn't the level of care she required - how was that not clear from my initial post? No one wants to see their parents naked if they have a choice!

This isn't being "nice", this is dysfunctional dynamics.


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He was pretending to shoot a person who wasn't a good dancer.

It was shown as him accidentally pulling the trigger because that's what he really wanted to do.

The Joker would be dancing around, imagining he's in a contest, see someone not dancing, shoot the person, then make some kind of pop culture joke like, "Sorry, you've been eliminated from the competition" like they would on reality TV. He would then laugh at the double meaning of "eliminated" and the fact there was no competition. That's the way Joker thinks, and that was the beginning.

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We was beginning to embrace his dellusions here.

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