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billbrown says that Disney gets 67% of TLK2019's ticket sales


55% of foreign gross

Marketing and distribution costs should not be considered in the break-even equation as they are paid for in the post-theatrical market

Disney has made over 290 million from with a net profit over 30 million from domestic gross alone ( Never mind that the current domestic gross is 513 million and the production budget is 260 milliion.)

Just let all that sink in for a bit...

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Aaannnnnd since billbrown will never provide a link to how Disney gets 67% of domestic ticket sales and 55% of International(LOL) I am calling on ANYONE that has this proof please step forward and post the link.

I'll gladly eat my words if this is proven to be true!

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Stop trolling , bill knows more about box office than you do , you’re an embarrassment when it comes to a discussion , pea brain

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Is that so?

So you are telling me that Disney is getting 67% of domestic and 55% of international?

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...aaaaannnnd still waiting....

lol

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And I’m still waiting for the link to say that this movies domestic take is a disappointment

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@furiousstyles

It's my opinion that TLK2019 was a domestic underperformer.

billbrown is stating as FACT that Disney gets 65% of domestic ticket sales and 55% of international sales for TLK2019!

I can't find a story about this ANYWHERE.

LOLOLOLOL. I mean, that would be a HUGE story in the industry and yet not one trade publication/site has a story on it!

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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What's so funny about laughing at your own joke? Saying "lololololol" doesn't make it funny but shows your unhealthy obsession to hate disney.

My OPINION is, disney gets domestically 65% and internationally 55%. I can get you at least one person who agrees with me.

Now go get one person to agree with your OPINION. (This deserves a lol :D)

Well, just to validate your opinion, an update on a disappointing domestic (sob sob) -

Domestic: $514,229,294 33.9%
+ Foreign: $1,000,775,374 66.1%
= Worldwide: $1,515,004,668 (Source: BOM)

I am totally on your side. Disney BO sucks

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Oh good...someone that can FINALLY direct me to one of those "confirmed reports" that Disney gets 65% domestic and 55% international!

No?

I knew it was too good to be true!

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[–] QueenFanUSA (2114) an hour ago
Oh good...someone that can FINALLY direct me to one of those "confirmed reports" that Disney gets 65% domestic and 55% international!

No?

I knew it was too good to be true!
If I provide for you a source that corroborates BillBrown what will I receive in return? Will you answer the myriad of questions that I have asked of you conversationally?

You'd think that answering my questions would have nothing to do with BillBrown but sobeit!

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You have one of these "confirmed reports" of Disney keeping 65% of ticket grosses, Norrinrad?

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[–] QueenFanUSA (2116) 4 hours ago
You have one of these "confirmed reports" of Disney keeping 65% of ticket grosses, Norrinrad?
Why would I have or even NEED to have a "confirmed report" of Disney keeping 65% of ticket grosses? Is that your dispute with BillBrown?

But you provide for me no reason to give you ANY answer by not agreeing to my simple request.

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Yes...billbrown says there are "confirmed reports" that Disney is getting 65% of domestic ticket sales and an astonishing 55% of international for The Lion King.

I had read a couple of years ago when they did that DOMESTICALLY ONLY for The Last Jedi but I'll be darned if I can find one of his "confirmed reports" in relation to The Lion King.

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Maybe if you reply ten more times billbrown will cough up the details. Or maybe all of this is a waste of your time :)

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I'm definitely "wasting my time". There are no "confirmed reports" for him to "cough up the details" I suspect.

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Wasting YOUR time?
Stating that you got it wrong isn't a mea culpa that was requested as an answer to a question, but the implied question remains in how and why you got it wrong. If it was just a gut feeling or just your opinion what informed your opinion that made you want to state "hot, Hot, Hot" and why does your "Gut feeling" rotate 180 degrees when it comes to Disney films?

Here is one, I repeat just ONE, recent link that corroborates BillBrown's statement as to Disney's Domestic and International Box office percentages:

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/093015/how-exactly-do-movies-make-money.asp
Ticket Price Revenue
Theater attendance has been challenging over recent years, making it even harder for studios and distributors to profit from films. Usually, a portion of theater ticket sales goes to theater owners, with the studio and/or distributor getting the remaining percentage.

Traditionally, during the opening weekend of a film, the larger chunk went to the studio, while as the weeks went on, the theater operator's percentage rose. So a studio might make about 60% of a film's ticket sales in the U.S., and around 20% to 40% of that on overseas ticket sales.

The percentage of revenues an exhibitor gets depends on the contract for each film. Many contracts are intended to help a theater hedge against films that flop at the box office by giving theaters a larger cut of ticket sales for such films, so a deal may have the studio getting a smaller percentage of a poorly performing film and a larger percentage of a hit film's take. (You can see the securities filings for large theater chains to see how much of their ticket revenue goes back to the studios.)
As I stated to you in another post there is no 50/50 split between Studios and Exhibitors. Never has been and no Studio is going to correct this perception as it is to their advantage to keep Studio earnings and profits quite murky.

BUT.....

The SEC filing provides more clarity and clearly Disney is making money in their theatrical releases of films that you believe to be profit-less due to the fact of how Disney holdings are structured and how Net, Gross, Expenses are accounted for.

Disney is probably receiving as low as 65% net on average of the theatrical release due to the strength of their contracts in the domestic market alone. Since Distribution is now mostly all Digital and Disney is an in-house Distributor they are expensing themselves, paying them selves and Distributions costs are substantially lower while they are charging themselves at the standard market rate for print films that DON'T exist or of which few exists for certain markets that have yet to convert to digital.

As far as International and what you proclaim to be an ASTONISHING 55% go back and do just a little research this time and you will find that the 25% that some tout as an average makes no sense and would never be agreed to by the content provider as large and influential as Disney. Why would Disney need to give up 75% of the ticket price revenue when they own the content and are the Distributor and or the co-Distributor in many countries? The International Exhibitors aren't going to "pirate" the movie so what leverage do they have?

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That's a huge, game-changing story for the movie business!

Why's it so hard to find?

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Fake.

In China, US movies make only 25%. To average 55% of foreign gross, they should be making like 70% in non-Asian markets, average.

For some reason, Disney seems to be in the need to inflate their numbers. And since box office numbers are lately under scrutiny (which started with the Captain Marvel box office hoax), this seems to be their new way to fake it.

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How does Disney inflate numbers ? It’s not Disney that calculates how much a movie brings in , sounds like you are jealous of Disney’s success

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LOL

Disney isn't saying this...billbrown is saying this...and ONLY billbrown.

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billbrown says there are "confirmed reports" that Disney is getting an UNHEARD OF 55%(LOLOLOL) of the INTERBATIONAL gross!

I can't find any of these "confirmed reports"...nor can anyone else on this board apparently. That would be an industry game-changer so you think there would be tons of articles with analysis on what this means for the industry dontchathink?

That's supposed to be on top of the 65% he says is the "confirmed" domestic take.

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I had to go back and do a rare edit. All this time I've been posting that billbrown says there are "confirmed reports" of a "special deal" that Disney got for TLK2019 with 65% of domestic ticket sales. I'd forgotten that he adjusted it up to 67% from , I guess, what must be an additional "confirmed report".

Essentially, closing in on 70% of the gross and I STILL can't find one news story on it.

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