why do the Waterfords keep vacillating between being kind and evil?
There is no discernible logic to their behavior. Are they like this in the book as well, or are the writers on the show just getting lost?
There is no discernible logic to their behavior. Are they like this in the book as well, or are the writers on the show just getting lost?
June has a special talent for pushing their buttons
shareI think they are written very well. I think most people go between "good" and "bad" (most not to these extremes hopefully). For me it's more realistic and more grounded than a fully "evil" person. It sucks for June though, because it gives her false hope (along with the other suckage).
shareWell, seriously, considering his initial reaction to June's request to see Hannah, Commander suddenly arranged a meeting after she belittled him?? You think that's well-written?
And Serena goes from full-on collaboration with June as an editor to inciting her husband to rape her to induce labor.
Those are some inexplicable extremes.
An "I'm sorry I raped you" gift? People feel remorse and that can make them do things they didn't want to do before.
We also still don't know who and why took Nick. Is it out of the realm of possibility that the Commander arranged the meeting so that he could get rid of the real baby daddy? It saves him the embarrassment of everyone learning that his Handmaid and his driver got it on and he could not make a baby himself for one thing. It punishes Nick, it punishes June. And it had the added bonus of the stress inducing the birth. (all speculation obviously).
Anyway, speculation aside, yes I think it was well-written. He cares for June, in a weird, screwed-up way. He felt bad for what he did, so he wanted to make up for it. You have to keep in mind that people in his possition can't afford to be leaniant. There is complexity in these situations on the show and I like that.
Actually, I think if the Commander did arrange for Nick's current circumstances, the real reason (or what compounded his reasons) was that he figured out Nick was the one who leaked the women's letters.
I was surprised, when watching that episode, that Nick had (or thought he had) that kind of freedom of movement, where he could just go to a bar and talk to Luke - all of that could be easily tracked.
I think Serena turned on June after the commander humiliated her in front of June with the lashing. Before that, Serena was kinda nice to her, asking her to edit the documents etc. But after the punishment, she got mean again.
The commander was pissed that June said he would never have a flesh and blood baby. Then he arranged to have her see Hannah, to then be ripped apart again, have Nick taken, etc. He is one mean mofo.
He didn't have Nick taken. Didn't you watch the last episode?
Yes the last episode was the 11th one named Holly. What did I miss about Nick? They didnt show his whereabouts did they?
shareNope, whereabouts still unknown.
shareThats what I thought...I dont understand Exatera's comment then.
shareI think he was saying based on Mr. Waterford's behavior in the last episode it would indicate he had nothing to do with Nick being taken. It's possible he's just playing dumb but I'd tend to agree with him not being involved because if he was involved he probably could've found a way not to have to confess to Serena that he set it up so June could see her daughter.
shareI've been feeling the same way but the scene from a couple weeks ago where she and her husband rape June to me felt like her crossing a line to which there's no return from.
shareThe second season (as someone on the board have recently told me) is not based on the book and is just a product of the scriptwriters' creative minds. Also, there is talk about the producers being able to come up with 10(!) seasons.
So in order to provide the viewers with discernible logic, these writers need to come up with ideas, concepts, and style on par with the source material. They need to continue the story which the author of the book didn't intend to continue. Also in just one year, they need to deliver a product similar to the original with the exception that the creative process for the original one was probably much longer. All this complicates the task and in my opinion the show is slowly spiraling downwards (