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A tale of two car-shows ... or why I'm sorta giving up on TGT


Unfunny "comedy", over-reliance on scripted "mayhem", out of nowhere "controversial jokes" and general lack of originality (read: new ideas) aside, here's one of my main gripes with the new show. And I'm not ashamed to admit that it took me a while to figure this out.. ;)

The show is called "The Grand Tour", implying mobility, change of scenery, a certain sense of cosmopolitan attitude and "exploration". However: This whole premise lasts for about 5 minutes after the main titles have rolled in each ep. Map shows the tent's current location, presenters (or someone) drive past some local landmarks in three cars, then JC cracks some jokes about the current location to the studio audience's delight (or in some cases to the sound of a laugh-track).

And then we get to the first film which completely kills the "grand tour"-aspect of the whole concept. "Here we are in Memphis, TN ... and now for the new Alfa Giulia - which I've been driving in Wales!".


Considering the huge cost and work that's required to move the tent and all the equipment around (for one thing, they actually need two identical tents to pull off their schedule), I'm kinda flabbergasted that they use their "traveling circus"-gag for nothing more but a few visuals and cheap laughs on each show. It's almost as if they were producing two different shows and splicing them together in editing - hence the title of this thread. I mean: You could probably pull 90% of their films from their original eps and dump them into a different ep and it wouldn't make any difference.

Or what about the three cars we see during the credits? Why not use those as the centerpiece for a new, "local" standard-feature of the show? Put them into the studio and tell us about those cars, tell us why you chose them, tell us what they mean to you and how they relate to your current location, etc .. I'd swap something like that in for the mostly unfunny studio-banter and the terrible celebrity-BS in a heartbeat.

Plus there's the fact that the presenters don't seem to be on board with this whole "GT"-thing themselves. A lot of the time, they present the show as if they were still filming in the UK, with a British audience in the studio. Maybe this was to be expected ... I (being German) wouldn't dare to propose that I could talk to a British or a Spanish audience the same way I could to a German one. Languages aside, it's a matter of the culture you grew up in, shared experiences, etc.

Before this gets too long, let me close by saying that I do like the *idea* of a "grand tour"-carshow. Sadly however, TGT is one in name only.

Yes: It would probably be very difficult to fill each ep with films shot only in the country where the tent currently is deployed, but the show doesn't even seem to try to make good on the "promise" it gives us in the main titles.

If I were to wear my "super-cynic"-hat, I'd say the whole point of the tent and the GT title was to be able to produce Top Gear 2.0 with enough differences from the original in order to avoid legal troubles. As far as I can tell, the only people who really "benefit" from the tent-idea are DHL (who organize transportation) and the few hundreds guys who make it into the tent at each location as the studio-audience.


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Nicely put. I agree.



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Some shows just aren't for everyone, and that's not a bad thing. At least you gave it a shot.

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I hate the new show. I was trying super hard to be optimistic. But they finally did the cheap car challenge and they totally botched it. They were actually on a track and did we get results? Nope. They just said screw it. There was no performance duels of any kind. And to top it all off, that ridiculous stunt with May and the boat. It's all crap. I loath it.

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As a long-time TG fan was really looking forward to TGT and it started out with great optimism, seeing the three lads re-emerge and re-boot their collective franchise. But... I agree with many comments that it's way too scripted, nothing is spontaneous, and getting increasingly dumb, AND especially this: What's the point of carting your huge tent and all the expensive equipment and production team to all these locations and then almost totally wasting it? Each location should be chosen for an automotive-related purpose and then celebrated, rather than just cracking a few cheap jokes about it then flipping to some pre-made segment about a random car in an entirely different continent. I don't "hate" it, but definitely it could be so much better. And apparently Amamzon have committed to three seasons(?) Hope they can get it right.

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A lot of valid points in this thread but one bad one. If Amazon wants to pay to cart the tent around, what's the problem? It's not your money. It's no different than people in the UK going to a studio to watch the studio segments when the pre-taped stuff is all over the world. My lord people whine about anything.

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As the philosopher Groening (rhymes with complaining) put it, "keep your expectation tiny and you won't be whiny." Maybe it isn't as good as it was, or as good as we wanted it to be, but it still makes me laugh and is better than 96% of the drek on the tube, so there's that.

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Your point about the show being 'too scripted' is a little side of the mark I believe. Surely the issue is bad, or over scripting. The scripts used to err on the side of plausibility with the odd OTT segment, joke or stunt, now it appears to have gone completely the other way.
The real genius was in the fact it was often impossible to tell what was scripted and what was genuine. Not the case anymore.


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A result on what? 2 busted Maserati's and James may with only one arm? It's not like they were reviewing supercars or anything worth while. It was a fun little challenge that was almost a parody. Go back and watch Top Gear and you'll see they used to do the same.

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Yeah, I can see why you'd stop watching. Even at its worst, Top Gear was still aimed at Petrolheads. TGT seems to be aimed strictly at the Clarkson/Hammond/May personality cult. The people who watched TG only for the antics, not the cars.

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Top Gear was a show about the cars? It was a show that featured cool cars. Nothing done was scientific or informative, but it was cool stuff using "cars" as a vehicle(pun intended) for their antics. Reviews came down to 2 results: "This car is rubbish!" "This car is fantastic!" The real CAR show stayed with Tiff and Fifth Gear. You want to know how the Ford Focus feels in the backseat, that's the show to watch. you want to to know how the ST understeers in an S turn, then you watched Top Gear

I made a post about why this show is shooting for a wider audience, and it should. If you don't care for the antics and want old Top Gear then there is this show called Top Gear with Joey from Friends.



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