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About the whole "if you're bitten on the hand" thing


A lot of people say that you only turn slowly if you're bitten on the hand, but, the girl which started the whole thing was bitten on the leg and she turned slowly.

The rules of the movie weren't consistent.

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The hand seemed to be the location where people turned the slowest. The neck seemed to be the fastest. The girl bitten on the leg at the beginning may have literally been bitten seconds before entering the train. Also she tied up her leg tight, so it may have slowed down the process; whereas the young girl toward the end was also bit on the lower leg and turned slightly faster but not instantly. Maybe like WWZ if the infected area is amputated right away you won't turn.

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The girl bitten on the leg at the beginning may have literally been bitten seconds before entering the train.


If that's what happened then there should've been more zombies present, people would say something, , people on the train would notice it too. Not to mention, if she was bitten seconds ago then zombies would have gotten onto the train as well.

From what I remember, zombies started attacking other people on the station only when the train started going.

Also she tied up her leg tight, so it may have slowed down the process; whereas the young girl toward the end was also bit on the lower leg and turned slightly faster but not instantly.


The girl who was bitten later still turned faster than the one at the beginning. Also, her tying up the leg would've been useless since she was running and whatever it is that spreads via the bite traveled faster through the bloodstream that way.


I really think that the rules were simply inconsistent. There's no explanation why the guy with the pregnant wife became the same as the other zombies seconds after his eyes changed and the bad guy was able to speak and act like normal despite looking pretty much like a zombies, his eyes were white etc.

Stuff like that happened because of the plot convenience.

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I don't understand why anything about the infection has to do with your enjoyment of the movie and if it makes it a bad movie or not. You can just say it effects different people in different ways cause of their dna or body type.

The reason it's not explained is because it doesn't matter. If you want the infection to happen exactly the same way with everyone, then everyone would have to be exactly the same in build and body types. But characters arent consistent in how they look(chubby dad, little girl, old lady, teenager), so the virus doesnt effect everyone the same way other than you wont be human in the next 5 minutes or so.

Stuff like that happened because of the plot convenience.


That's the main reason you don't have to think too much about it.

Thinking about the infection is a waste of time and I've wasted my time thinking about it. Loved the movie.

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Yes, it does affect your enjoyment of the movie because it shows how well thought out the idea is. Does the writer think the audience is stupid or not.

Would you be OK with the idea of zombies suddenly starting to fly for no reason?

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some ppl could be genetically more susceptible, along with numerous other factors. i mean we have plenty of different diseases in real life that have various incubation times depending on who is infected and also present with varying degrees of severity.

i think it's your premise, that a disease will always affect people exactly the same way every time, that is stupid.

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i think it's your premise, that a disease will always affect people exactly the same way every time, that is stupid.


Unlike what you wrote? This is a fictional disease that acts in a completely different way than real life diseases.

A lot of zombie movies establish this very thing well. They show how the zombification works and even how much it taes for a person to turn into a zombie. In some works, it takes some time before a person starts to show signs of the zombification (for example, Dawn of the Dead, both original and the remake), while in others, it's surprisingly fast (like 28 Days Later). I don't remember those playing around with the rules as much as this movie.

If I remember correctly, a person turns more quickly if they have a really bad injury or if they recieved multiple zombie bites etc. (I think that was the case with one character in the remake of Dawn of the Dead). Those works don't deviate from such a rule, I could be wrong, since I don't remember some details.

This movie doesn't really establish if there are people who are immune to the disease etc., while other works do that.

Also, what some people fail to realize is when exactly it took longer for a person to turn into a zombie. Some examples, that girl which started the whole infection in the train (she was OK for a long time, despite running really fast etc, which would just spread the infection more), the husband of the pregnant wife, that jerk (whose eyes even looked like those of the zombies, no other character was shown to function properly while having eyes like that) and the father at the end.

That's right, this is the "dramatic/plot convenience zombie disease". Isn't it just a little weird that it all takes longer to happen when the movie needs some plot convenience or a really dramatic scene that forces people to cry?

It's never done differently in a minor scene, therefore, the writer didn't think it through, they sacrificed logic for plot convenience. Which makes the point like "different incubation time, look at all those real life diseases" points moot.

I say, look at all the scenes where that happened, it's not about the disease accuracy or consistent rules, it's about dramatic/plot convenience.

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If that's what happened then there should've been more zombies present, people would say something, people on the train would notice it too.


The platform guard was attacked by just one zombie. Who would notice a guy running across the platform? Train passengers that noticed, would assume he was running to get on the train.

From what I remember, zombies started attacking other people on the station only when the train started going.


A platform guard noticed a small crowd reacting at top of the stairs about five minutes before the train started moving. A couple of minutes later, he turned to look at one end of the platform, the infected girl ran into the train. Then when the train started moving, the little girl saw the train guard getting attacked by a newly-turned zombie, also from the stairs crowd, on the platform. We can assume at this point that the train would be long gone by the time the zombified crowd came down to the platform a few minutes later.

The state of the infected girl when she got on the train showed she was bitten about a minute ago, which strongly suggested she was one of the witnesses at top of the stairs before she was attacked. Having witnessed it, she knew what being bitten meant. Hence, her desperate attempt to put a tourniquet on her bitten leg. The tourniquet slowed down the process of her being fully infected, which gave her another - maybe - five minutes before she was fully turned.

Well, it works for me, anyway, so I feel they did think their rules through.

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I wonder why he didn't try amputating his hand and seeing if he could survive.

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Depends how quickly you die, if the infection alone kills you it will take longer than if you died from blood loss or the trauma. As soon as they die they turn

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Then why was it so inconsistent?

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It's not inconsistent- some people may be more resistant to it, some less. I suppose being young and strong, it would take longer. But even if you are young but not in good health, the infection would spread faster as your body can't fight it. This is why the husband of the pregnant lady survived this long before turning while being able to hold off all the zombies despite being bitten- he had a strong body. A fragile twin in his place would probably turn faster.
This is not World War Z when it takes exactly 10 seconds to turn, that was bs... 7


In the beginning there was nothing, and it exploded.

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It could be like rabies, the further away from the brain the slower it takes to turn. The COO was bitten on the leg and he was in the train for a while, took a long time to turn.

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But some people turned quickly despite being bitten on places like legs or hands.

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It is inconsistent however iirc in a great majority of zombie flicks it's always that way. Simply because 2 reasons: 1) it's not a real virus so no one is trying to science it up to 99.9999999% accuracy and make it genuine as possible to a made up virus (maybe the 1st girl that got bit on the leg got a small graze while the last girl got all 26 teeth set in deep. And that's how this crazy thing works faster. Point is the mythos isn't real and it's not like there's set rules to it) and 2) movies are usually made with suspension of disbelief/leniencies/exaggerations/shortcuts/liberties here and there to make the movie more exciting and/or to simply make the script work the way they want it to. For the most part it's not super noticeable or bothersome to the general populace but i can understand how it can be distracting and annoying to some critical viewers especially for the more "grounded" movies. But this is a fantasy zombie horror flick so let's not nitpick and just enjoy the movie.

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the high school girl was just a side character so of course she turned quickly, compared to the main characters who are obviously going to have more screen time

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Could just depend on the person themselves, perhaps some of the people in the film are just more resilient at keeping the virus at bay before the eventual change.

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Speaking as a virologist, though, it's actually not that strange at all. Viruses have different incubation times - obviously, none are as fast as a zombie-virus seems to be (what was it according to Max Brooks? Solanum or something?), but they differ in incubation time based on immune factors, environment, inoculating dose, etc. Ebola can go from roughly a day to 21 days - so I wouldn't be too bothered with the 10 seconds-10 minutes range seen here...

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You have no major arteries in your hand, but you do in your neck. So I assume you turn about as fast as it takes to infect your whole bloodstream.

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