I'm a big fan of the director of this film...
I'd like to watch this, but I havent seen The Shining and have absolutely no desire to watch it....
Is it possible fully get and Understand Doctor Sleep without having seen The Shining?
thanks
PS, I'm aware The Shining is considered to be a Great film and Is Highly recommended, I just have no desire to watch it
I think you could.
Not sure why you won't watch the shining. It is fantastic and not that scary. The score makes it scarier than it really is.
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To be honest, I just cant get motivated to watch OLD movies....
about the only OLD movies I watch it Jaws, and Rocky 1 and 2...
I think you'd be able to follow it (although it would be much easier if you're familiar with the Shining). If you end up liking this movie it may motivate you to want to watch the Shining, which I'm surprised you're not willing to give a shot to.
shareIts not that I'm not Willing....
Its just really hard....Its very hard to watch a movie that you have no motivation to watch....
and Its worth noting, I of course have had plenty of examples where I finally watch a movie that I had no motivation to watch and LOVED it...
But Its just hard...
I think you could be right, maybe by watching and liking Doctor Sleep, It may finally give that motivation to start The Shining
Lol...knowing your "unique tastes" I'm not surprised at all that you don't feel drawn to a Stanley Kubrick film. But no-name Mike Flanagan is someone you're a fan of.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Lol...knowing your "unique tastes" I'm not surprised at all that you don't feel drawn to a Stanley Kubrick film. But no-name Mike Flanagan is someone you're a fan of.
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Oh man, what a devastating BURN.....How will I ever recover......
no seriously, Like what I am going to do?
How the hell am I going to make through the day after this..........I may have to break down and starting thinking about your astonishing record of Missing by over 50 Million + when predicting films opening weekends on 13 different films in 2 years to get over your "brutal" burn.....lol...that always puts a smile on my face
PS....
Give Flanagan a shot....
He's made some pretty good horror films.
The Haunting Of Hill House on Netflix is absolutely INCREDIBLE
and I personally really enjoy Oujia 2, Before I Wake and Oculus
PSS
I also must say your fascination with "what Movies I enjoy" has officially gone from ODD, To now a creepy Obsession...
and weirdly enough it all seems to stem from my opinion that "I enjoyed Aquaman"....
anyways thoughts on Disney's 7th film of 2019 topping 1 Billion + in Frozen II?
and thoughts on Disney Now Literally having 7 of the 8 Highest Grossing films of 2019?
but to be fair, The 1 film in the top 8 that isnt Disney, was WB's Joker, which Had a Fantastic 1 Billion + total gross......too bad though WB had no confidence in the film while making it and sought out partners to Co-Finance the film, which resulted in WB only recognizing around 50% of Jokers Profits......WB ALMOST finally had a "Disney type hit"....buuuuuuut nope...
mike flanagan is great. he's made terrific film after terrific film this decade.
i didn't like dr sleep much, and i certainly don't think flanagan is our new kubrick, but he's a terrific talent, & i for one can't wait to see what he does next.
Btw...are you on your 15th viewing of Aquaman?
LOL
lol your not going to believe this but I actually watched Aquaman last night.
lol I think its my 4th viewing....
Opinion still remains about the same...
IMO Its fun, would have been a complete disaster had James Wan not directed....Jason and Amber are pretty much Awful in the lead roles, But Its a film I can rewatch and enjoy due to the action and World building...
7.5/10
now firmly out of my top 20 CBM's though
Joker officially entered my top 10...I've watched it 4 times now, fully feel Joaquin Deserves the Oscar
CBM Rankings are-
1. Logan-10/10
1. The Avengers-10/10
1. The Dark Knight-10/10
^^^3 way tie for #1, all equally great for completely different reasons
4. Captain America The Winter Soldier-9.5/10
5. Avengers Infinity War-9.4/10
6. Captain America Civil War-9.3/10
7. Avengers Endgame-9.2/10
8. Joker-9/10
9. Deadpool-9/10
10. Guardians Of the Galaxy-9/10
Worth Noting, Its entirely possible I may move Joker up to #6 ahead of CW and EG...While I'm sure right now, Joker is the overall better movie than those 2, I'm not sure Yet Its a Movie I can rewatch and enjoy as much as I can them....I need to watch Joker a few more times to be sure....
I think Joker is 2nd second favorite movie of 2019(behind Endgame) and right now IMO the 2nd best movie of 2019(behind The Irishmen)....
As for a few other 2019 films I liked....I was very surprised by Alita Battle Angel, I think that might be the most underrated movie of 2019....
Netflix Made 2 movies I really liked in Polar and In The Shadow Of The Moon....I LOVED ITSOM, I love the serial killer/cop trying to catch a killer genre
rounding out my top 10 would be John Wick 3(my least favorite of the 3, but still damn good).....Us(Great First hour but them falls apart IMO)....Once Upon a time in Hollywood...It Chapter 2(not as good as part 1).....and The Child's Play Remake(Not Great but IMO very fun)
Unfortunately While Disney completely dominated 2019 With 7 films topping 1 Billion + resulting in A record breaking 10 Billion + Historic YEAR....
I just didnt like Many of Those BILLION Dollar + films
Endgame and Homecoming are the only 2 I really liked...
Aladdin was bad, The Lion King was average, Toy Story 4 was disappointing, and Captain Marvel was decent.....
Oh Well...
Fair enough, bill.
P.S. Homecoming was Sony.
Home coming was made by Disney and distributed by Sony.
shareHaha...95% of the profits went to Sony.
shareHaha...95% of the profits went to Sony.
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Lol funny how you had to change your stance....
I remember a time when you were claiming Marvel Studios/Disney made NO Profit from Homecoming or Far From Home....
I of course reminded you Marvel Studios in fact made more profit from Merchandising on those 2 movies than Sony did form from Theatrical profit....
and then again you claimed, so what they didnt make any profit from the box office....
But then Old billbrown swooped in to ruin your day, after I learn based on Disney's New deal with Sony that Marvel Studios did in fact net 5% of profit from box office from Boh HC and FFH...
Now, I in no way claimed it was a lot, but I did note the IRONIC nature of it for YOU....In that somehow Marvel Studios managed to Net MORE Profit and Money from only 5% stake on Far From Home's box office than WB did from having 100% of Shazam's profits...
Lol of course this is only note worthy because You tried very hard to defend Shazam's box office for a while...
and I just cant think of much thats more embarrassing that Marvel Studios/DISNEY literally making/recognizing more profit off a film they only had a 5% stake in than WB did on a film they had a 100% stake in...
Buuuuuuuuut you can blame WB....They just dont seem to be good at recognizing profits as seen in the Joker debacle .....Jesus, WB lost Literally over 300 Million dollars in profit because they didnt have any confidence in the film.....
PS
Your expectations of a 150 to 160 million opening weekend for SW went down to burning flames this weekend queen with SW apparently netting a 190 M+ OW....
This all but ends your near 3 years trolling of 'The franchise is in trouble'....It cant feel good to realize you wasted that much time and were wrong for that long....thoughts?
Ummmm...bill?
What happened to "I'm going through a rough time so I don't want to argue"?
Yet another CREEPY lie?
What happened to "I'm going through a rough time so I don't want to argue"?
Yet another CREEPY lie?
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November 26 was the one year anniversary of my fathers death....
several things happened that made this time even worse for my sister and I, but I've been in a 2 month coma of depression during this time and luckily I'm starting to come out of it due to the holidays...
still not ready to commence my reign of TERROR over you...
But I couldnt help but to ABUSE you a little considering the 3 years trolling rampage youve been on claiming the SW franchise is in trouble.....
It looks like it's coming in at around 170-175 million NOT 190+million so I wasn't that far off after all.
^^^ could you provide the source, as far Ive seen everything is still saying 190 M+ and not has been updated since late Friday...
also I wouldnt call MISSING by 25 Million + "Not far off"....If SW comes in at or over 175M you still disastrously missed...lol
PS....I'm not trying to claim I was right at all here either....I Made no predictions here, I have not been keeping up with box office the last few months, I truly had no clue how SW was tracking, and even if I did, I would not have been confident to make any predictions as the SW franchise has officially for me became the ODDEST franchise in Hollywood ....so I just want you to know, I'm kinda neutral here
Well not neutral ,Of course I take great joy in you MISSING, but the point is, I dont have a dog in the race here...Just because you are going to be WRONG here doesnt mean I was right or that I would claim to be right...I literally had no opinion on this one...
I said 160 million which would only be 10-15 million off!
shareOnce again, sorry about your father.
I'm glad you are starting to heal.
Annnd it came in at 175 million just like I told you a few hours ago.
shareAnnnd it came in at 175 million just like I told you a few hours ago.
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you dont need to say "Just like I told you" like I didnt believe you...
I asked for the your source, because at that time, all sources I checked had not updated, I was honestly just asking what source you were looking at that had undated numbers, I was in no questioning the truth of your claims, in fact, I was ACCEPTING the truth of your claiming and wanting to know your source so I could add it to my sources for the future....
You simply got way to defensive here....
It looks like it's coming in at around 170-175 million NOT 190+million so I wasn't that far off after all.
^^^
No you MISSED badly....Your predictions were between 150 to 160, You made comments questioning if the film would come in under 150 M, so you clearly thought it was possible....
but hey at least you didnt miss by the usual 50 M+.....
lol if I remember right you Missed by 71 Million on The Last Jedi....
so a 27 Million dollar miss is definitely awful but its actually an improvement for you...
And...uh...bill?
It looks like it's coming in at around 170-175 million NOT 190+million so I wasn't that far off after all.
If your not watching "old" movies you are really missing out and only denying yourself some satisfying experiences. But to be honest I used to be the same way. If you continue to be a film lover eventually you will seek out all the "old" greats. I would suggest using the IMDB top 250 and choose the ones that interest you or have some actor you like.
shareIf your not watching "old" movies you are really missing out and only denying yourself some satisfying experiences
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I dont disagree with....
as I said Its just hard, Its hard to watch something that you have no motivation to....
My Mom has been telling me for years, I should watch The Godfather 1 and 2....I know they are considered 2 of the greatest movies ever made, and I really like movies like that....but I just cant get motivated to do it...
hell in fact, I have pretty much no doubt I would LOVE some of the older movies I've been avoiding, But I just got to find a way to get motivated to start them...
In 2015, I watched The Force Awakens(it was my 1st time watching any SW movies), I really enjoyed it....It made me want to start watching the Older Star Wars films...buuuuuuut, No matter what I did I couldnt get motivated to watch The Original Trilogy....I ended up watching Prequels instead(which for me knowing nothing about Star Wars , they were decent).
Then In 2016, I watched Rogue One....Which again I really Enjoyed, again I wanted to watch the original Star Wars films....This time, I actually started the film, Got about 15 minutes in before I realize I didnt even remember what I watched.
I was so bored and not interested in the movie, The entire time I was watching, I was thinking about something else in my head and didnt even realize what was happening in the movie...
This used to happen to me in High school....I used to HATE History and science class....whenever The teachers would give us homework where we had to read 2 or 3 chapters....I would go home and read the chapters, but after I got done, I would realize I dont actually remember very much about what I read, because I was so bored and uninterested in what I was reading, The entirely time I was reading, I was thinking about something completely different in my head....
Older films just dont appeal to me , I have to some reason that gets my really interested to watch them...and I recognize thats not a good thing and as you said, Its almost certainly resulting in me missing out on some great films...
An aversion to older movies. That is quite funny.
shareStrange for someone who loves movies to feel "unmotivated" to watch a highly acclaimed masterpiece just because it's "OLD". A film made forty years ago isn't that "OLD"!!
Yes, you would understand "Doctor Sleep" without having seen "The Shining" but you'd be missing a lot of its impact - especially the way Mike Flanagan brilliantly re-creates the Overlook Hotel and Danny's memories in the final 40 minutes. Anyone watching "Doctor Sleep" who isn't familiar with "The Shining" would be depriving themselves of the full experience "Doctor Sleep" has to offer.
Just like the old tagline goes: The Shining is a masterpiece of modern horror (that goes for both the book and movie). It was true then and it's true now. And yes, the score is really what elevates this movie to the heights it reaches. It really is a Must See. And I have a feeling the opening credits scene alone will grab your attention and hold it tight. It's both incredibly beautiful and frightening in equal measure.
shareJesus, just watch the shining. You talk about being a fan of this director and he’s hardly done anything. I think your post craves attention. Just watch it. It’s 2.5 hours out of your life and it’s a great horror film. Without it you wouldn’t have this film. Enough said
shareIf we had a Like button on this forum, I would use it right now.
Seriously, just watch The fucking Shining. Everyone should see it, if for no other reason than to be able to engage in the cultural conversation surrounding the film.
You can definitely understand it. Some parts in the last 30 minutes might escape you a little, but you should be good to go for most of it.
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