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BARS consulting..

posted 8 years ago by DocOfTheDead
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Has anybody seen this? Any thoughts on whether they will be successful? I had no idea there were services such as this available, and it seems REALLY expensive. I would think that the average person heading to jail/prison don't have that much cash to spare for services such as this, and do people usually have that much time between sentencing and incarcaration? I think it said they need 30 days to prepare. I also think the 20% referral fee for attorneys is really high.

What do ya'll think??

https://www.barsconsulting.net/home.html

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[–] rpgdancer 8 years ago

i think it's silly that they say it's "the only incarceration preparation service designed by correctional professionals and former inmates." yet the consultants are the cast from the show!

[–] DocOfTheDead 8 years ago

It's funny that they now consider themselves "professionals/consultants" after just 60 days. I can understand somebody working in corrections being able to offer this type of service.

I wonder (not enough to research it) how many other services there are that do this. If BARS claims to be the only service that has people in corrections, former inmates and an attorney it makes me wonder if the other places only utilitize only inmates, only corrections workers, or only attorneys.

I would love to know if they have a money back guarentee! I can hear it now!
Some guy gets shanked for "dissiing" (oh how I hate that word) an inmate because the consultant failed to mention that you can't even refer to your female dog as a b!+ch without being called to kangaroo court!

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[–] paca0502 8 years ago

I don't know if they'll be super successful, but as long as it's something they are doing on the side, why not? Kind of a smart way to monetize their experience, I'd say.

It looks like it isn't geared to the average person going in, probably more towards the rich white people who are likely to become victims, and are very nervous going in.

[–] DocOfTheDead 8 years ago

I can understand what you mean by monetizing the experience for sure. I guess my thought is more toward them calling themselves professionals.

I also can see that their target customers are supposed to be wealthy but it would seem that would limit their client pool. My other thought is that wouldn't the client already be in jail for some amount of time (county jail, waiting trial/sentencing)? If not, would they not go directly to jail/prison immediately after sentencing?

It will be interesting to see how well the business does.

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[–] paca0502 8 years ago

I guess if you consider it in the way athletes do, if you get paid to do something, you are a professional at it.

Trial, and especially sentencing, can take months or years to happen after arrest. I'd think that the service would be for people who were able to bond out after the initial arrest. They could take the course while the trial is going on. Or maybe they have some correspondence program that inmates can do while in jail?

Just FYI, in case you didn't know, jail is for the time between arrest and sentencing (for federal or state level criminals, county people will short sentences will stay in jail the whole time). The criminal can be bonded out during the trial, but once found guilty will go to jail to await sentencing, which will happen at a later date. After the sentencing the "time served" in jail will usually count towards the overall sentence, and the criminal will spend the rest of the time in prison. Most inmates are happy to leave jail for prison, because they get much more privileges and have more to do in prison.

[–] DocOfTheDead 8 years ago

Good point about being professional if you are paid to do something (athletics as your example), but I still have a hard time equating an everyday Joe who has been to jail once as a volunteer, for a short amount of time, getting paid or not with somebody who should be considered a pro. Maybe if they were career criminals and had been in and out of the system for years..I could maybe see them calling themselves a pro.
I see what you mean now about the service being geared towards people who get bonded out after the initial arrest. I imagine that process is relativly quick, then once they are out and waiting on trial they would at that time use the service.
Correspondence courses for them while they are already in jail? That would actually be funny...lol

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[–] wendyisrad 8 years ago

Kind of a weird service. First, unless you hear about this beforehand, how many people actually think to look for a preparatory service before heading off to jail? Or even have time to do this before going to jail?

I'd also say most people going to jail probably can't afford this, and the ones that can likely have committed crimes where they could still be bonded out and not have to spend much time in jail. So I'm not sure who their target market is.

[–] canadazbest 8 years ago

I wouldn't be surprised if BARS didn't have some sort of contract/agreement with every lawyers' offices in the cities where they're available - so when a client is facing jail/prison time, his/her lawyer knows all about their program & services, and the lawyers get some kind of "referral fee" (kickback!) from BARS - just a thought!

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[–] DocOfTheDead 8 years ago

Hey girlie! 
From what the site says, it doesn't appear they work out of any one specific city. It seems that they will either video chat/skype with clients, or they will fly to wherever they are needed, at the clients expence. It does seem they have "professionals" in a few areas, and if the client chooses to have face to face training, wanting to fly the pro to them, that they will send the consultant who lives closer to the area in an effort to keep the cost down.
It also states that attorneys receive a referral fee for each client. It was either %20 or %25, which seems high to me as far as a kickback goes. I wonder how successful they were at networking in an effort to gain lawyers/clients.

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[–] DocOfTheDead 8 years ago

Yep!! That is exactly what I mean!
I would be interested in a year or two down the road to see if this actually takes off.
I'm curious what the business plan is..

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