So... no famous villain never dies in these movies and becomes good and part of the family in next movie?

Sometimes villains just need to be villains. No need to redeem them. They just have to lose and die. Voldemort doesnt need to become Harry’s ally against new villain in new sequels. Hans Gruber doesnt need to become best friend of John McClane in sequel.


In opening credits for Fast 7 Jason Statham walks out of the hospital and walks past around 20 police or security officers who were guarding his brothers hospital stay I assume. They were just regular workers, not villains. They all had family and life. At one moment Jason takes grenade, put it in the hands of police guy and throws him into nurse and doctor. Then they all blow up. This guy killed so many innocent people. And now he is good and fun guy in Fast 10 and casually helps Doms gang.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLG6xlypAHI

With someone of her status, I think she would have some kind of fighting skills just in case of a betrayal. I sort of want to say because she is a woman too and some men don't like to take orders from women. But with all the hired help, there was no reason to use her combat skills. Just let others use their skills and she'd save hers for when she really needed them. Plus it would seem out of place if they gave her a scene or two in 8 or 9 to show off the fighting skills. And the marketing for 10 helped. They heavily used the Letty vs. Cipher fight in the marketing, so you kind of knew she could fight. So when Momoa stole all her resources, it didn't seem too out-of-place. It felt believable. But I can give that a pass. It would've been nice though if they kept her a villain. 8 REALLY set her up to be a big threat. I can sort of give her turn to the good side a pass. Dom wasn't thrilled to see her at first, and Letty doesn't seem to trust her. Dom was quick to being okay on seeing Statham and Cena again. They also did give Cipher a reason to turn good. Statham and Cena were more like "okay, we are good guys now." But Cipher was stripped of everything and betrayed. To me, I saw Aria T'Loak from the Mass Effect games with what happens to Cipher. When I was watching the betrayal scene, it just felt like "is she going to be like Aria and take back Omega now?" It felt like Cipher lost her "Omega" when Momoa came in and took everything. And Cipher knows that Momoa is an even bigger threat than her, so it was best to turn good and help stop him. This could be why Vin Diesel is saying a possible 12th movie is being made. Maybe after Momoa is defeated and Cipher gets back everything, Cipher turns bad again and then 12 is this massive showdown of good guys vs. Cipher. We'll see though.

I meant when thy started hiring famous actors for villain role. Started with Rock. They even didn’t kill Luke Evans who is not even that much famous. But they still brought him so "save the day".

I honestly dont even remember villains from other movies. So forgettable they were.