What is wrong with USA?


Seriously, what is the matter with Americas need to trial kids as adults? This is a frequent occuring thing in the States. So insane.

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It's not just that they're kids (a moral issue), it's that they're the least dangerous criminals imaginable (12-year-old mentally ill girls). That is a STUPIDITY issue I'm afraid.

"Let be be finale of seem/ The only emperor is the Emperor of Ice Cream"

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I wouldn't turn my back on them in a kitchen.
They're either too stupid or too evil to be unleashed on public. Another Payton being stabbed 19 times just isn't worth it. We like living in a safe country. Crimes have repercussions. Also, it would be best for you to not immigrate to America ever. Move to Pakistan, you can stab 12 yo girls there and just make up a story and get away with it.

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You seem to share the same mindset as many in Pakistan have. Modern countries, civilized countries have knowledge, science to know what mental illness is and how it should be treated. You choose, like in Pakistan, to just punsih the crime without using your intelligence and experience to act right. In many many ways, America is just as bad as the worlds worst countries in the world when it comes to crime and punishment.

"I would not turn my back on them in a kitchen"
Seriously, listen to yourself.

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You are naive. I wouldn't have turned my back on them in a police station. They are bad, I don't care how old they are. I honestly believe the defense team is posting on here in an attempt to sway a jury pool.

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You should break your piggy bank and use the money on treatment.

Please take my advice seriously. Your morals are not in balance.

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If you feel these kids are harmless, I hope to Christ they move in next door to you after they get out.



The flat-brimmed baseball cap is the modern-day dunce cap.

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Just the fact you manage to read that I find these kids "harmless" from what I write tells me how unable you are to grasp anything of importance. I am not saying these kids are harmless. I am saying they are kids and should be tried as kids not adults.

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Totally agree with you.

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Wow! I think I'll contact the defense team and ask for money since I came up with the INCREDIBLY OBVIOUS point that it's better to give limited prison space to dangerous adult sex offenders than schizophrenic 12-year-old girls--and I am using it to sway the potential jury pool on the IMDB message boards.

I don't know if some people are trolling, suffering from paranoid delusions, or just plain STUPID, but the crazy people in America to worry about definitely are NOT these two 12 year olds!

"Let be be finale of seem/ The only emperor is the Emperor of Ice Cream"

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Did you listen to them being "interrogated"? I absolutely believe one of them will kill again given the chance.

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Should've said that there's no doubt one of them will strike again only next time the victim won't be so lucky.

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Ok I'll use your logic. I'd rather see these 2 attempted murderers in prison than a random coke dealer. See how that works?

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No, kidding.
The "logic" and "reasoning" some of these troll are using for not keeping these girls locked up.

It's not how our justice system and jails work.
Nobody is arbitrarily picking criminals to be set free as others are coming in.

For just as many criminals being arrested or sentenced, there are just as many being released because of acquittals or finishing their sentences.

There are really very rare circumstances were they have to release some people early for overcrowding. And in those circumstances, it's more likely, in cases of sex offenders say, that they release someone who was sentenced for statutory rape because at 18 they had sex with their girlfriend who was shy of their 18th birthday by a month or so (parents found out somehow and ...).
They look at records, not just what the sentence was for, but behavior while incarcerated, and factors such as whether they show remorse and likelyhood of recommital of the crime.
There is absolutely no picking names out of a hat, as it seems these trolls are suggesting will happen if found guilty or happened when these girls were arrested.












I'm being extremely clever up here and there's no1 around looking impressed! What's the point in having you all? DrWho

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Tell the girl they stabbed 19 times and left in the woods to bleed to death (after planning her murder for 6 months) that they're the least dangerous criminals imaginable.

The purpose of trying them as adults is to give the judge the broadest possible range of options. Being tried in adult court doesn't necessarily mean an adult sentence in prison. There are other options, like hospitalization. If the case were forced into juvenile court, the punishment or court ordered mental treatment couldn't extend beyond 18. Their criminal record would also be sealed, which could be a huge problem if they're violently insane by then. This is a strong possibility with Morgan since schizophrenia's severity tends to peak in the late 20s/early 30s. Statistically, schizophrenics are three times more likely to commit violent crimes than the general population. The court can't ignore that.

The girls have argued that they belong in juvenile court because of their mental conditions. The judge found that they belong in adult court because the attack was "not accidental or impulsive, but premeditated and extremely violent." I can't disagree with that. The attack was horrific and their post-attack interviews are chilling in their brutality, cold-bloodedness, and complete and utter lack of remorse or regret. Even though they're clearly sick, they're also clearly dangerous and the court has to take into account the possibility that they will always be dangerous. Hence, they'll be tried in adult court so that the court's supervision of their mental state isn't halted at 18. That's all it's about. It's not about "locking them up and throwing away the key because Americans are barbarians".

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They planned out, stabbed a girl and left her for dead. Absolutely no remorse about it. They don't deserve to ever see the light of day

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Are you twelve years aswell? Because you seem to think like one.
These girls were kids. Nobody claims they should not get punishment but not as adults! They should get treatment not punishment in an adult prison. You and your likeminded are the reason why it takes twice as long time to move humanity forward.

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No you're wrong if not for being tried as adults they would be let out in a couple of years basically a slap on the wrist. Now they're 18 drinking and possibley drugs, definately intamcy with others where jealousy & rage will exist and what do you think they will do if only given a slap on the wrist.

I'll tell you, they'll act out again. Remember in your world it's ok because of age, mental stabillity or the dumb excuse they concocted to give them the guts to commit this crime.

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You are totally correct. "Woodgirl-661" is living in a fantasy land - much like these murderous psychopaths. Woodgirl-661: would you be willing to adopt these girls and live with them alone in the woods? Read a book. Psychopaths are missing the part of the brain that allows empathy - no amount of "treatment" in the world can help these lost souls. The best society can hope for is that they don't kill again.

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The people who think 2 little girls should be tried as adults are the real psychopaths here. Just drop them in a psych ward for a couple of years and then re-insert them to society. Bigger fish to fry.

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Until they're babysitting someone's child and decide to kill the child to showoff to their peers. Then society will say why did they get a slap on the wrist.

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I will say kids that are tried as adults should spend there time in a juvenile facility untill they turn 18 then finish off there time in an adult prison.

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That is the usual procedure.
Even if tried and convicted as adults, they remain in the juvenile detention centers until they reach 18.








I'm being extremely clever up here and there's no1 around looking impressed! What's the point in having you all? DrWho

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I advice you to read something else than fiction. You seem to be completely disillusioned by movies and pulp fiction novels.

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Maybe you should search the net about babysitters killing babies, toddlers or children. In Cleveland Ohio there's a few every year. Justice channel is always posting a picture of one wanted on murder charges.

https://www.google.com/search?q=babysitters+killing+kids&oq=babysitters+killing+kids&aqs=chrome..69i57.9350j0j4&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

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lol, you can find Bigfoot by googling it Bigfoot sighting

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Yeah I'm sure reputable newspapers and tv staions are perpetrating mass hoaxes of children killed by babysitter.

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Dropping them into a psych ward for a few years then re-inserting them into society is the worst possible "solution".

Psych wards aren't miracle factories. They can't make people un-schizophrenic. At best they can help control symptoms with tightly managed medication and therapy. Many on meds still suffer hallucinations and delusions. It never goes away. Management is the best case scenario and in the case of someone who has already acted out their delusions in hyper-violent fashion, their case could be unworkable. Morgan is on anti-psychotics and seems to be doing better but they could change anytime, especially if the court has no power to force medication compliance.

Re-insertion into society is a very difficult process for someone whose treatment has been successful bot for someone for whom it isn't? It's a nightmare and not just for them but for everyone around them. The state will be held responsible if they let them out and one or both attack someone else.

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