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Where was MARCELLA when Grace Gibson was killed?

posted 8 years ago by lisafererro
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One thing I don't get -

Obviously Marcella has an argument with Grace Gibson at her home shortly before Grace was murdered -

Obviously Henry Gibson did kill Grace that night -

And Obviously Marcella did indeed move Grace's body after Henry killed Grace Gibson -

But where was Marcella when Henry actually killed Grace? She could not have been present for the murder because I'm sure Henry would've killed Marcella as well - and she didn't leave the house and come back because she would've been on CCTV cams - so where was she when the Grace Gibson murder actually occurred???

Thoughts? Theories? Anyone???

[–] cinles 8 years ago

You're way more clever than me if that is the only question you have. I guess if one were to put some sense into nonsense I vote for they missed her on the CCTV coming back. There's no other answer that works.

[–] Hookpunch 8 years ago

Yeah either a lot of plot holes or unresolved plot threads for another season....the OP question is the major one....just what happened the night Grace was killed and why did Marcella move the body.

[–] cinles 8 years ago

We know why she moved the body - she thought she killed her. But it's quite fuzzy what happened between Marcella and Grace, when Henry killed her and how Marcella found out she was dead. Plus what is wrong with Marcella and these violent outbursts and blackouts? Did anyone address them, like her husband? Plus, that's an interesting condition to have when you're a cop.

[–] Hookpunch 8 years ago

Thought she had one of her black outs the entire time because she couldn't remember finding the body and didn't remember moving it until later....I don't recall a black out, finding Grace then a 2nd black out moving the body.

[–] cinles 8 years ago

We all agree Henry killed Grace. So when was Marcella with Grace? It had to be before Henry was there. Where was Marcella when Henry was killing Grace? Marcella had to have left Grace's place in one of her blackouts after some kind of altercation and then was aware enough to go back and find her dead. So, is she able to go in and out of these blackouts like people with multiple personality disorder?

[–] jrsydevil82 8 years ago

Don't forget that witness (who is still missing after that blackout) SAW Marcella loading something or someone into her car. At the time we were to assume it was Graces body. Marcella showed up at Graces home when it was still light out (I think) and saw herself leaving on camera in the middle of the night. So there's still the unanswered questions of what happened in all that time and how did Henry miss her

[–] TheOzyMan 8 years ago

Marcella was caught on CCTV leaving the house but she tampered with the evidence and removed a frame showing her clearly in her car. Tim (I think) got the original CCTV and spotted her. The missing frame didn't appear on copies. How did she move Grace's body on her own? Dead bodies are incredibly difficult to carry unless you're trained. My question is, Why did she move the body? The possibility she had blacked out could be one answer I guess.

[–] jrsydevil82 8 years ago

Well it seems she has superhuman something when she blacks out. She managed to kick some serious butt when she blacked out while being attacked by strong men. I can't imagine the body weight much. I thought maybe she moved the body so it could be found.

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[–] looey-1 8 years ago

Knowing how volatile, and 'forgetful' Marcella is makes her daughter's question more accusatory.... "What did you do?" stopping just short of saying NOW?

[–] ledo-lorena 8 years ago

I literally just finished watching the show and came here to ask the same question and some more.

She has a black out right after she walks into grace's home then regains consciousness when she is in a tub covered in blood.
Whose blood is that? Wasn't grace asphyxiated?

...... So many questions

[–] halcour 8 years ago

Oh good, it's not just me. I thought I had missed something. The whole timeline with that incident makes no sense whatsoever.

[–] jjemod 8 years ago

Thank God, I thought it was just me! I have more questions than answers after watching this. There are comments about plot holes all over this board. I was considering rewatching the season thinking I had missed a lot, but from the looks of comments, I won't get answers. I'm thinking the writers don't have a clue to our many questions either, but will grab ideas reading these posts from some very good commenters.

[–] moxlos 8 years ago

I may help on your thoughts with my thesis, Black outs occur as explained by her therapist from extreme stress etc.What is triggering though memory ,try remembering instances, is subconscious.

So she gets into Gibson's house extremely mad on her thoughts.All the time She was there inside the house.

Same time real murder(Henry) appears kills his sister but Marcella is present, by accident, so Henry
just beats her (so the blood on her).In that aspect he is now forced to change his plan ,framing other for her sister's killing. Marcella was to be presented as a psycho killer since her motivation to kill was strong- separation.THIS fight cause her to black out.

BUT ,against Henry's plan, when she wakes up ,remembering nothing, but seeing blood and a dead body next to her, She moves it,thinking is dead by her actions.

After burying, it returns to her house and She blacks out again to avoid guilt. (This is how black outs along with subconscious work,if they experience these incidents, in all humans).Otherwise she would already knew that Henry was the killer.

Her Subconscious, in final, takes control and leads her literally into the buried scene.This the reason she insists on chasing Henry at some point.She remembers something but can't bring up into her memory.

[–] theplotterist 8 years ago

Okay, one major issue with your theory is that Henry didn't know who moved the body. Henry had no idea it was Marcella nor that Marcella was around the Gibson house at all. He would have mentioned it during his confession if he had any idea Marcella was around.

It's still a puzzle. What I'm thinking is that it was Marcella who broke the window at the pub, in a rage, and that is why she was bloody in the bath tub. I'm also thinking that she may not have moved Grace's body herself, that she may have been present or contributed, but I don't think that Marcella moved it.

So many questions, for instance, what happened to the cab drivers brother? He just disappeared after putting a knife to Marcella's neck. And we don't know if Marcella's ex survived the knife attack.

Guess we'll all have to wait for S2.

[–] moxlos 8 years ago

Well you have a point,but Henry does know.During his confession he says to Marcella "Its all about crossing that line,well You know....", implying something they Both know,then camera shows Marcella feeling discomfort.Along comes a scene showing her with Henry's voice in her mind "you are so s....up" and trailing scenes on her memory( Matthew tied up).

In between Tim appears asking about Jason's status and Marcella responds"He will be fine,out from surgery soon".

Cabs driver is an illegal feared immigrant so he is hiding.Henry took full responsibility, on his confession, about all except moving body,so Marcella stays in the loop.

But Cab driver Him only knows about Marcellas action.I think he is gonna be presented at S2e01!!

[–] ryanjones79 8 years ago

Henry doesn't know, he's referring to Marcella nearly killing him (Henry). He makes no mention of her being at Grace's place or moving the body at any time, she was not there when he killed her. And who did she see when she entered Grace's and turned right before blacking out?

Other questions:

Who killed the cabbie? Only Marcella knew about him.

What happened at the very end of the last episode, kinda looked like Marcella had just transitioned into a split (evil) personality right before end credits.

[–] moxlos 8 years ago

During their fight on last episode Marcella says to Henry that She knows who move the body.So my perception is that while interogate Henry,He could reffer to that, like "ask her She knows",but the plot didnt wanted to so this makes a good start for Season2.Same for taxi driver.

[–] am3105 8 years ago

This is the only thing that makes sense!! Not sure why he didn't kill her, though, when he killed the little girl that walked in on him for the same reason. Unless she was already blacked out from the fight with Grace when he arrived..

And in that moment, I swear we were infinite.

[–] Waldimore 8 years ago

That question is never answered.

All we saw was Grace letting Marcella into her home and Marcella verbally confronting her about Jason. Then she blacks out the events that followed. It's anybody's guess.

Did she and Grace get into a bit of a fight? Did Grace hit her and knock her out? But if that happened, how did Henry not see Marcella when he came to kill Grace? Did they have a bit of a physical row, Grace puts her out, Marcella leaves and then comes back later?

Who knows? Did she kill the cab driver?

But if Henry saw her there, why didn't he take her down? Seems like that would be the kind of thing he would do.

Too many plot wholes beginning with Marcella's character. She is too unstable. As a result, I couldn't get into her.

[–] Youthwisdom 8 years ago

I feel like so many questions were left unanswered. Who killed the cab driver? Why would Henry kill him when he'd already told the police he was sleep and didn't see anything, and Marcella never told anyone he'd seen a woman moving a body? If he killed the cab driver, no one was around, why wouldn't he have stuck to his MO and used the plastic bag instead of shooting him? What happened to his brother? Why wasn't the cut on Marcella's neck in the front when she went to work? Why does Tim lie to Marcella about talking to Jason? Maybe I missed something, but when did Cara rob Henry? I thought Cara only slept with married people, how would she have had the opportunity to sleep with Henry?