.....as the main character - uninsured in the US - would have died from the original heart attack or shortly thereafter. I hope the Brits can hang onto national healthcare and a social safety net in an era of "Trump/Thatcherism" and Brexit....
shareThe OP does nothing to dispel the notion that Americans like to pontificate on subjects they are entirely ignorant of.
Care to explain the link between Brexit and the NHS?
Have a go, I need a laugh.
Many people voted for brexit because they thought it meant that it would stop foreigners coming to Britain and I'm not just talking about the good ones who work pay taxes and contribute to the economy I'm talking about the ones who come from outside Europe and when I say outside Europe I'm not talking about Australians, Canadians etc, if you catch my drift.
shareThey meant two groups I think, the refugees from the Middle East, and the East Europeans. They were frightened also by the Brexit camp saying that Turkey would be joining the eu, allowing millions more to come to Britain. This was a total lie, as Boris Johnson knew.
shareTin Tin-3, another retarded leave voter who doesn't know what they were voting for LOL.
NHS is linked to the British economy. IF the economy takes a *beep* big nosedive then so does the NHS. Our trade deficit could increase, austerity could increase. Do you think the government is going to spend so much money on the NHS when the country is on its arse?
Leave voters are thick as pig *beep*
Another cretinous neo-liberal.
As disappointed as you and Deutschebank must be at losing the referendum, the fucktard notion that the EU is in good economic fettle demonstrates your staggering stupidity. It is an undemocratic shit storm of backroom businessmen and dodgy bankers intent on a homogenised continent of unthinking conformists.
Remain voters were useful idiots in that endeavour.
Not to mention the fact that a lot of our NHS workers come from other EU countries.. who is to say they will want to, or be able to come over here to work once we're out of the EU? We will struggle to run the NHS without EU workers!
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Simple - the same right-wing delusions and idiocy that led to Brexit are the same ones touting privatizing healthcare, dismantling the NHS etc.
shareDuh Brexit happened because of a referendum , not due to right wing government
Thomas Paine must be turning in his grave if you're typical of the average American
Ah not this debate again! Frankly, it's getting old & tiring.
1. Who voted for Brexit
There were two kinds of people who voted for Brexit: (a) genuine Eurosceptics from both sides of the political spectrum (i.e. left-wing people who hate the EU as a capitalist / neo-liberal and rather ruthless construct, right-wing people who believe in nationalism/national pride and have a negative attitude towards immigration) (b) people manipulated by populist politics (mostly UKIP) and the media (right-wing tabloids) into believing that Brexit will solve all our problems (which were caused by Thatcherism in the first place).
It certainly is a mixed bag, so (although very disappointed by the result) I am very reluctant to join in with all those who rushed to condemn all Brexit voters as "brainless racists". You could see, for example, how the characters in this movie could have easily been persuaded to vote for Brexit (as they did, up North) and it would be harsh to blame them.
2. Brexit was initiated (albeit mostly as a bluff which ultimately backfired) by the Tories in a bid to win the election. Many Tories didn't want Brexit to happen, but now that it's happening there is very little to protect us from them tearing down every single aspect of the welfare state: goodbye NHS, goodbye state-funded education, goodbye benefits.
The face of neo-liberalism is going to be even more ruthless than before and this may not be the direct cause of Brexit, but it is related: as part of Europe, there would always be member-states of a more socialist persuasion pushing against radical neoliberalism and vetoing policies that would turn against the people. On our own with a Tory government, there's only some weak Labour voices trying to hold such policies back, but these are never going to be enough, especially if, as expected, we start direct dealings with ultra-conservative partners such as the US.
The future is grim and Brexit is one reason why this is so. The reality depicted in this movie is going to become more and more common in the next few years.
And don't tell me that anyone still believes in the "£350m for the NHS" fairy tale because that's more naive than believing in Santa!
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Brexit didn't happen because of the right wing government but it did happen because of an increase in the far right supporters in the country. Obviously everyone who voted for Brexit isn't far right, but a lot of them are!
shareSunderland voted for Brexit - a Labour ward since time immemorial.
Same goes for Wales - red as the rose.
Don't let the facts get in the way of your fascitic worldview though.
Try again?
Thanks for the perspective. As frustrating as some of these systems can be, living without them could be far worse. The 'survivalist' mentality in the U.S. is a cautionary example. The challenge is to improve these systems, not toss them.
"Moving in for the obligatory hug."