S1: Chapter 7 (contains spoilers, obviously)

I agree that it doesn't make sense to open a thread before watching an episode. However, after one of the other episodes I heard from someone from Europe who had not seen it yet.

Yes, Rudy was one of the Summerland people, a mutant actually. He's the one who tackled Lenny in the corridor
I believe.

As an American I loved that line!

😎

"And you're british?" That made me laught as well. The whole interaction between David and himself was fun.

Thanks for the explanation of what Oliver was doing and for the suggestions MovieMan! I'll keep those analysis...es? in mind. After the season's over I plan a binge and I'll check those out after that. Untill then, I like stumbling in the dark. For me, it's half the fun :)

Meant to also include that I hope to be back for the finale, but I'll just have to see how I feel and see what the site is up to. It has been a lot of fun discussing this show with you all though and I also appreciate you guys asking after me.

I'll attempt to ease back into all this....
Stay awesome and just repeat to yourselves; "I am pretty. I am loved." 😉

Technically, it could all be astral if we went that way with it. That could, potentially explain everything you're asking about. Assuming that's not the case though, I'll offer....

We have never been told that being hurt in the astral couldn't affect you or kill you still have we? There's no reason to assume other than what we've seen in other popular culture, perhaps, that those bullets still couldn't have done some damage. I have to keep reminding myself this is all in the mind and that's where the implications lie and not with their actual bodies. I assumed that if the bullets hit Syd she might die in the astral plane and while that maybe wouldn't have transferred to her physical being it would've kept her in that astral plane, in that room forever, essentially making her a vegetable. That's the real word consequences of that one. I'd say the same applied to all of them, that's why they were on a rescue mission, so they wouldn't be trapped there for well, eternity, possibly. Or, like you said, Rudy was still injured so maybe it does transfer and those bullets would've killed her full stop. We don't know the rules of the astral plane and if change based on who's in it.

Cary's device was made for David's mind and not his actual head so it makes sense to me that it'd work there since a lot of what was going on was his doing (albeit through DYE as well). I also don't know about the last part of your question with their bodies. Do we know where they all were when they got sucked into the astral plane? Anyways, I don't think it mattered cause they were all together in that astral room and David's power allowed him to group them altogether and transport them to the forest. I think you just have to go with that being a part of his abilities.

The Oliver thing is peculiar, to be sure. Either DYE tossing him across the room threw him completely out of the astral plane and that's why he's there...or maybe it goes back to your last, and my first, points of it all being astral or another plane of reality of some sort. Who knows! Which isn't a very confident way to end this message, lol....

Okay...so I'm rewatching it right now and I'm as confused as you are about what is and isn't the astral plane. I thought for sure his room was, but that scene between Oliver and Cary strongly suggests otherwise. Oliver says that's where their bodies are and Cary says, "real David," referring to the one in the room and calls it, "the now frozen timeline."

So...all of that indicates that the room isn't an astral plane, but actual reality. I guess we just have to take Melanie's warning that it may be his mind they were walking into as just being wrong. That they didn't explain that or clarify it seems like a real misstep because it was a bit of unnecessary confusion, in my opinion.

Both Syd and David allude to their actual bodies being in his room, too, so I guess that's that. I'm docking myself -10 points for lack of critical hearing and paying attention, haha!

Aw, man, sorry for rubbing that in. I always forget how fickle the whole time zones thing is...we're all in that agonizing wait together for now though, ugh!

Sounds like a pretty niiiice set up there! I'll probably be pacing around the room going, "what the fuck is happening?!" because that's what this show does to me, lol

Can't wait to see what you all have to say about it!