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About Nolan not having an oscar yet...


Anyone else think he was too good, too young like dicaprio? I think if had spent 10 years or so making just good films and then made the dark knight or inception he would have got a best director nomination by now. I think now like dicaprio he will have loads of near misses before he finally gets it

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I think if he made The Dark Knight in 2008 then again in 2009, he would have gotten it then.

After the hoopla of missing out on it in 2008, the Academy wised up and let more films in, also considering a wider range of films.

** Rest in peace, Timothy Volkert (1988 - 2003) **

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Yeah there's no doubt the dark knight would get a best picture nomination now. But I mean for him to get a best director nomination. I reckon it will take that long to come now that by the time it does everyone will be like "finally..."

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After the hoopla of missing out on it in 2008, the Academy wised up and let more films in, also considering a wider range of films.


Right. I still remember when the Academy was so impressed by the sfx and makeup of An American Werewolf in London that they created a whole new category a year later to make up for not having awarded it when they had the chance. Oh wait, that's not what happened, they created the new category ahead of time since it was the only way to award the movie that had been responsible for them creating the said new category in the first place. But you're right, it would've made much more sense to make a change because of a specific movie and implement it only when it was too late to award said movie. Totally.

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Well at least I know one person isn't convinced. 

** Rest in peace, Timothy Volkert (1988 - 2003) **

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Why should I be? If that change was implemented due to TDK, not only it would've affected TDK but they would've mentioned it when they explained the reasoning, as they usually do in such cases. Fanboy wishful thinking isn't enough to convince me, sorry.

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If that change was implemented due to TDK, not only it would've affected TDK but they would've mentioned it when they explained the reasoning, as they usually do in such cases.
Do you think the Academy has a time machine? As soulsk8ter225 said, Nolan would have had to remake TDK in 2009 in order to benefit from the change that was prompted in large part by the snubbing of the real TDK in 2008. There was no way that the change could have "affected TDK" because it "was implemented due to TDK." Specifically, the expansion of the allowable BP nominations to 10 was implemented because so many people were upset that TDK didn't make the cut and they didn't want future BP-quality films to be left out like that again.

Do you really not remember that kerfuffle? If not, here are a couple of articles that reference it:

http://entertainment.time.com/2010/02/01/top-10-oscar-nomination-snubs/slide/best-picture-the-dark-knight-2008/

"Why did the Academy decide to reinstate the 10-film field for Best Picture in 2010? Because the year before, The Dark Knight wasn’t voted into the top five."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/oscars-academy-weighing-return-five-779066

"In 2009, the Academy moved away from its long-term rule of having five nominees (though it had chosen 10 in its earlier years), following the omission of The Dark Knight from the previous year's lineup. That film's exclusion from the best picture nominees led many to argue in favor of throwing a bigger net that would lift ratings and also satisfy popular audiences hungry for the Academy to acknowledge films with a wider appeal."


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Please refer to the example above. Did the Academy had a time machine in 81?

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The situation with "American Werewolf" was different. The Academy didn't need to create a new category for TDK. But the brouhaha over TDK's nomination snub certainly did result in changes the following year.

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The situation with "American Werewolf" was different. The Academy didn't need to create a new category for TDK.


It wasn't that different, as the Academy made a change in order to recognize a movie that otherwise would've gone unrecognized. If they really wanted to nominate TDK, and the only thing standing in their way was the number of nominees, they would've made the change, like they did with An American Werewolf in London. Yet they didn't.

But the brouhaha over TDK's nomination snub certainly did result in changes the following year.


My point exactly, they didn't make the change because they wanted to nominate TDK, or because they felt they should've, they made the change in response to the fanboy outcry that followed, in an attempt to prevent future ones. So, in the end, TDK, the movie and its quality, and the Academy's opinion on it, was not what caused the change. Had it been the case, they would've done it while there was still time, like with AAWIL. Yet they did it purely as a gesture, towards an audience that automatically assumed that it would mean TDKR would get a Best Picture Award to make up for it, LOTR style, who quickly proceeded to send death threats to the critics who gave the movie a less than positive score, before they even saw it. And how did that turn out? Christopher Nolan and his cult of personality are still in the same position they were in 2008, other than the number of nominees nothing changed. Yeah, he got a nomination for Inception, but who's to say he wouldn't have got it anyway? Sci-Fi movies have no problem getting nominated, super-hero action adventures, on the other hand... that will be the day, they could change it to allow for 20 nominees and that still wouldn't change.

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they made the change in response to the fanboy outcry that followed
The man who had been the chief film critic for Time for nearly 30 years in 2008 could hardly be called a "fanboy." There were plenty of critics and industry people who thought that TDK had gotten a raw deal.



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The man who had been the chief film critic for Time for nearly 30 years in 2008 could hardly be called a "fanboy."


Equality, please, even professionals are susceptible to sensationalism.

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Artistically, TDK is nothing at all. Dunno where you people come from, it deserves no awards. Obviously Legder did, and then there's the sound editing, why not, but it's a joke about the stupid voice I figure.
Silly entertainment, beg your pardon. Good on the eyes, low to zilch on every other aspect.

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2017. People still cares about Oscars...

Nolan, I love you forever!

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Oscars are actually a very terrible judgment of movies most of the times. Their record is apalling. I don't know why people take them so seriously they are just weird most of the times.

It's only after we have lost everything that we are free to do anything -Tyler Durden

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Oscars are pure political.

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Yeh I remember dat Wrestler guy shud win best actor but they didn't like him and they gave it 2 Sean Penn 4 suckin cock

Wat bout dat huge diss 2 Eddie Murphy in Dreamgurlz. Dat wuz his last chance and they snubbed him.

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he doesnt win because he is all flash and little substance. to many plot holes in his movies to get nominations, let alone win an award. sometimes i forget to see who is directing before i go see one of his movies and since he usually follows the same all flash and big plot hole style, and i havent enjoyed watching the movie because of this, i can easily guess i will see his name as director in the end credits. if not for the majority of brain dead movie going population, i might never be fooled into seeing any more of his movies based on its popularity.

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If that's the case, it's some double standard BS though. Damien Chazelle is 32 and already got two nominations under his belt with less films.


Whatever you are, be a good one.

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He is not an artist

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not anymore, not right now, if he ever was
he's overhyped like hell and it's definitely detrimental

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I think he and James Cameron are very similar in a sense where they make quality movies but are not artists.

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