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Question about Mindy St. Claire and Medium place?


Were they real? Was she really living along in a medium place or was that also part of the trick?

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Most critics said it is not clear. It could be real and outside the bad place. It could be part of the con. Guess we have to watch season 2 to find it out.

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thanks, hope they explain the medium place makes sense.

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I think she was part of it. I would think that there's nowhere they can go that wasn't created by Michael. Maybe they'll find a loophole or a way out, but I think the middle place was part of Michael's plan. I'm sure they'll explain it all more in season 2.

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> Were they real? Was she really living along in a medium place or was that also part of the trick?

I'm pretty sure that it is a real place that seems to be forgotten by the curators of the afterlife.

I mean, why introduce the place during the final episode of the first season if it wasn't going to play an important role in the next season? It could have been much easier for production to have them hide out in an abandoned neighborhood along the tracks and it would have played out the same.

The thing is that Michael has wiped the memories of the four main characters and rebooted Janet. But, he has not wiped Mindy's memories of them because he never knew that they interacted with her. He may not even know that she exists. Mindy will be key in the second season to them recovering their memories.

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On the one hand I doubt it is real, since it means they managed to escape from the bad place.

On the other hand, it does raise an interesting possibility, not only because escape is possible, but because Mindy managed to earn her way out of the bad place, posthumously.

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Mindy managed to earn her way out of the bad place, posthumously.
But would a person like Tahani be considered "worse" than Mindy. I would think that the outcome of Tahani's good works-- even though they were done for selfish reasons-- would merit at least a "medium place" ranking.

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Tahini did good works with bad motives, as opposed to Chidi, who did bad works with good motives.

Mindy's world charging generousity was sincere, effective, and heartfelt, it just came a little too late for it to completely count in her favor.

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Mindy's world charging generousity was sincere, effective, and heartfelt, it just came a little too late for it to completely count in her favor.


I didn't see it as much about not having it count in her favor, but that in her specific situation there's two completely different kinds of ideas.

She spent her life being a terrible person in every aspect, but her 1 final, genuinely good deed had such a positive effect. So instead of just going by the points system and figuring out the sum total of her actions, the Good and Bad places argued over which was more important, what kind of person she was and her everyday negative effect on people, or the 1 massively good thing she did.

Since they couldn't decide, they compromised.

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And Mindy proved herself to be a terrible person even after 30 years in a neutral zone, trying to convince the others that you had to be selfish and only think of yourself and was willing to doom the others who she thought to be good people to suffer an eternity in the bad place.
She seemed much worse than the others.

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That's what I think, although both Tahani and surely Chidi earned themselves a place in the "medium place."

This is a fun show.

I hope you've found your way here, Jennie. I always enjoyed your posts.

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It especially means, that there are other places or "neighborhoods" where people can run "away" to and the controllers of that special place can't hunt them down. Since they want to run this for multiple seasons I could see that they wander around in "good place" for a while, then the rag tag band runs away and the bad guys try to find them. The ending of the show would be that that four got so good that the "real good place" finally has to take them.

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I think it was real. In retrospect, the fact that Trevor was the representative of The Bad Place in Mindy's video, but Michael wasn't the representative of The Good Place, was a clue to Michael's true nature.

If the Mindy stuff was all part of Michael's plan, it would be odd for him to choose Trevor (who Eleanor would already have been familiar with) but not himself. Why not use himself as a representative, which would give her all the more reason to think of him as being from the Good Place, and not the Bad Place?

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>I think it was real. In retrospect, the fact that Trevor was the representative of The Bad Place in Mindy's video, but Michael wasn't the representative of The Good Place, was a clue to Michael's true nature.

There are different neighborhoods with different architects, and the woman in the video could've been the architect of whatever neighborhood the good side wanted to put Mindy in.

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I view the medium place as a real destination. Janet was the one who told them about the medium place. Janet is revealed to be a construct of all the neighborhoods and was programmed to be good in this bad neighborhood.

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I am confident it was real. Janet had dedicated herself to Jason by then and she was the one who knew about Mindy. I also hope that erasing Janet's memories and rebooting her didn't alter that routine that makes her loyal to Jason. Could make round 2 even more fun.

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It was real. Janet was the one who took them there and Michael and Shawn were clear that they didn't know where Eleanor and Jason were hence the walkie talkie protocol. At the end it's established that Janet was stolen from the good place and is/has a mainframe connection to other neighborhoods, good or bad making her motives unplanned as well as the conformation that her feelings for Jason being real.

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Playing Devil's Advocate, the walkie-talkie protocal could've been for the benefit of Tahani and Chidi, and Michael could've planted the information about Mindy in Janet's, err... brain? Circuit board? After all, Mindy did serve a purpose in torturing Eleanor more, by trying to convince her to leave her friends to be sent to The Bad Place, and only look out for herself.

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Another point about Mindy and why she wasn't real:

She shouldn't have earned points for deeds that happened after she died. While she was alive she didn't do jack-shirt for humanity. And once you're dead, all the points for your time on Earth are tallied up, no points rewarded for something that happened after your death. So wouldn't Mindy's sister be the one getting points? She found Mindy's money and decided to actually use it for a good purpose, which she totally didn't have to do.

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