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Who was the most evil bad guy in the Mission Impossible franchise?


Personally I think Owen Davian was. What do you think?

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I agree with you. MI3 went way dark thanks to Hoffman's masterful performance!

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I think that Owen Davian was extremely sadistic. Don't you agree?

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Yes, I already agreed with you above. :)

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Yes. Agreed. Hoffman made his character the most memorable villain of this franchise.

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Definitely Owen Davian.

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Davian for sure, Lane comes close

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Owen Davian has been the high point of the series thus far. The films have been remarkably consistent, with only the 2nd one being outright garbage, but part 3 is the best of the bunch, in large part due to Hoffman's performance.

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yeah Phillip Seymour Hoffman/Owen Davian.

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Do the movies even have bad guys anymore? They haven't been any good since the second one.

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/07/31/mission-impossible-movies-best-worst

5. M:I:iii

The biggest bug with this movie is, for some people, its central feature. Always a keen observer of upcoming talent, Cruise plucked J.J. Abrams from small-screen cult glory and gave him his first shot at a megabudget feature film. So the third Mission is recognizable as a spiritual sibling to Alias: A spy thriller that treats the central agent as a kind of superhero, alternating between their Normal Life and the Spy World. Abrams loves to make things personal — he would later kill Kirk’s father and Spock’s mother in the same movie — and so the third film is the one that tries hardest to dimensionalize Ethan Hunt. He’s retired and happily engaged; he only comes back to work for a this-time-it’s-personal rescue mission. (Abrams initially pitched Alias with the question “What if Felicity were a spy?” and so it’s appropriate that, in his first movie, Felicity actually is a spy.)

The problem with this is simple: I’m not sure Ethan Hunt is really supposed to be a typical human person. Monaghan’s fine in a thankless role — her whole purpose is representing “normality” — but their chemistry lacks the sparks of Cruise/Ferguson and the gauzy-goofy melodrama of Cruise/Newton. M:I:iii hired legitimate genius Philip Seymour Hoffman as the villain, but his Owen Davian is maybe the most abstract bad guy (in a franchise that already trends toward abstract megalomanics.) This is an Abrams production through and through, which means it starts with an exciting flashforward — that ultimately leads into a deflating less-cool-than-you-think reveal.

The film knocks one scene out of the park — I’d put the Vatican City infiltration in the franchise’s top five setpieces — but Abrams was still a big screen newbie, and the early helicopter-chase sequence feels choppy. (Another Mission that’s a movie of its time: The whole thing plays a bit like a Bourne movie riff, all shaky-cams and monochrome nightscapes.) It’s servicable—and forgettable. But the film did provide us with one immortal moment: Tom Cruise doing casual small talk.

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You mention several reasons why the third entry is the weakest in the series: pedestrian, uninspired direction, an ultimately empty story, the villain's memorability owing more to Hoffman's performance than the script, heavily borrowing from timely aesthetic trends rather than forging its own style. I find it difficult to watch these days.

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Alan Hunley.

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