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Are the Mediocre Reviews Due to Political Bias?

posted 6 years ago by FilmFan1983 (128)
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The whole thing could be a metaphor for the current detention and treatment of illegal immigrants. The end doesn't assume any point of view. The action of releasing the dinosaurs into the wild is seen as heroic but the movie reminds us time and again of the dangers to come. Peter Fonda's latest film is also being downvoted on IMDb due to politics and not the film's quality. Are people bothered by the fact that this film seems to be supporting an open borders agenda?

[–] funkychicken (613) 6 years ago

I haven't seen it. But I am sick to death of political messages and SJW agendas ruining movies.

I'm so disappointed with much of what is coming out these days, I mostly just watch older stuff.

[–] kuku (3510) 6 years ago

I'm so disappointed with much of what is coming out these days, I mostly just watch older stuff.

Same here. Luckily there's tons of good stuff in the 40s-50s.

I'd suggest checking modern Japanese and Korean cinema (and series). Fine stuff. And, as a plus, it's a fascinating looking to some different cultures. Unless modern SJW stuff that makes everything look the same, no matter it's a videogame in Ancient Egypt, a series happening in the Viking Era, a movie in the XIX century Europe or a sci-fi one in Japan. Same archetypes, same racial and gender quotas and profiles, same message, same behaviors, same anti-white-male stuff. Media never has been so repetitive and uniform as in this 'diversity' era.

[–] funkychicken (613) 6 years ago

Indeed, I have been watching a lot of great classics from the 40's lately. I just watched The Philadelphia Story last night. A truly great classic comedy, with lots of laugh out loud moments. Something most "comedies" these days are sorely lacking.

I think even through the 90's most movies are relatively free of the disease you so accurately describe:

"Same archetypes, same racial and gender quotas and profiles, same message, same behaviors, same anti-white-male stuff. Media never has been so repetitive and uniform as in this 'diversity' era."

[–] kuku (3510) 6 years ago

Ah, those were the movies. Cary Grant is my favorite actor ever. Period. Indeed, I used him as a model to get some style flirting with chicks, and it damn worked.

I think even through the 90's most movies are relatively free of the disease

In my opinion, there's another group of movies that seem copypasted: scifi and monster movies in the 50s-60s. But still, they were a small subset of the whole movie industry. And they were B-movies, often with B-screenwriters and low budget. Now it's the whole movie industry.

You can perceive the evolution in the three 'The Thing' movies. The original one, full of great ideas, but with a rigid archetypical storytelling. Then the John Carpenter one, deep, layered, with great characters (Kurt Russell nailed it), and then the new one, gone back to archetypical storytelling and Manichean characters, now in a SJW way.

[–] hoggle99 (8) 6 years ago

I get animal welfare out of it, not immigration.

[–] crc32 (2584) 6 years ago

And the message "if you make a profit off manipulating monsters then you must die".

The message is contrived to the point where they are saying "Shame on you for making a lazer targeted dinsour" when no one in the military would do that if you already have a gun with a lazer painting a target why would you need a dinosuar to attack at all at that point.

[–] Boricanator (1440) 6 years ago

That’s sort of beem the message since the first film.

[–] crc32 (2584) 6 years ago

Yea it sucks. Back then I was young and impressionable. Now I know better.

[–] Strazdas (2472) 6 years ago

So you could blame the dinosaur and not the laser owner on the killing. Political killings made easier.

[–] Vechtersbaas (550) 6 years ago

I don't know. I am a classical liberal (what in the USA would be considered a conservative I gues?) and I didn't see it like that at all. It was more about animal rights then anything else. And messing with mother nature. The bad reviews are probably from people who expected way too much outta this movie. I liked it.

[–] Ldlamb (636) 6 years ago

Yeah, I didn’t feel it was particularly bad In the politics department.........other than the idea that the little girl was doing something good....when she really was just sentencing hundreds of random people to death.

[–] kuku (3510) 6 years ago

I am a classical liberal (what in the USA would be considered a conservative I guess?

I'm very close to classical liberalism, and I have been often labeled as 'hippy' during my life. Nowadays, I happen to be far-right and labeled as 'nazi'... and I haven't changed.

A journalist and thinker I highly admired (and who shaped my political views) wrote how back in the 60s he was labeled as 'fake-leftist' or 'bourgeois-leftist'. He didn't change his position, then in the 90s, he wrote about how he was labeled as 'radical-leftist'... sometimes by the very same people that labeled him as 'bourgeois' years before. I supposed that was he alive, nowadays he would be labeled as far-right.

[–] Wuchak (8732) 6 years ago

I supposed that was he alive, nowadays he would be labeled as far-right.

Nowadays anyone who's not loony Left is considered Conservative.

[–] Strazdas (2472) 6 years ago

Unfortunatelly nowadays anyone to the right of Mao Ze Dong seems to be considered a nazi.

[–] johnmiller (3889) 6 years ago

How could a movie conceived of two or so years ago, shot a year ago, and in post-production for a year or so deal with "current events?"

[–] FilmFan1983 (128) 6 years ago

It's oddly coincidental. I'm surprised nobody in the press has mentioned the ending at all and how it eerily informs current events.

[–] Strazdas (2472) 6 years ago

Well, two or so years ago is kinda right on time for the european immigrant crysis, but i dont think this movie was about immigration.

[–] Strazdas (2472) 6 years ago

I havent even thought about this allegory until i read your post so i do not agree with this movie being used for it. Also we didnt forcibly bring the immigrants from their homes nor did we genetically engineered them.

The whole theme of the movie was "preserving the dinos" so releasing them was certainly an ending to be expected.

That being said, open borders agenda is stupid.