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I wasnt aware Talia was

posted 9 years ago by alidede
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that heartless. I mean I knew she wasnt a goodie good girl but I thought she cared for her son at least.

Now she suddenly says he is a bastard and no second thoughts of killing him.

Also I dont think the real Talia would want a broken Batman. The reason she loved him because he was the strong minded Batman. Why would she be interested in a slave

I think the Talia who were in Batman Arkham games who sacrificed herself for Batman at the end was closer to real Talia. This Talia seemed too simple and two dimensional.

[–] Tabitha Lenox 9 years ago

that makes no sense. Her last words were "learn from your father" now all of a sudden she hates them both and would rather see them dead? No explanation for that. DC is really getting sloppy

[–] thepennyshowman 9 years ago

The same Talia who raped an unconcious Batman to get her child in the first place? Yeah, she was a nice lady.

It's hot... but not as hot as the night Johnny Viti got married...

[–] alidede 9 years ago

I never said she is nice but for sure she was not in character in this movie.

Talia always care for his family and wouldnt call her own son bastard and kill him without thinking it over.

She also sacrificed herself for Batman in the comics right?

[–] PreachCaleb 9 years ago

Talia is not a he in this movie. I think that's where your confusion is.

Talia is a villain. People forget that.

Let's be bad guys.

[–] alidede 9 years ago

Villains can be misrepresented too.

If Joker started working for Black Mask and starting taking orders from him; would you say well he is a villain they work together all the time?

Talia can be a bad girl but she always values family and wouldnt kill her own son. Especially her son with Batman.

She also wouldnt be in love with a puppet like she tried to create

[–] PreachCaleb 9 years ago

Considering Joker has been around for decades and has in fact worked with many other villains over that time, yes, I would say that.

Talia in the comics actually did put a bounty on Damien's head, so she absolutely would kill her own son.

Let's be bad guys.

[–] alidede 9 years ago

Yes but I was talking about Joker taking orders.

She may have put a bounty but I dont think she will act like she did in this movie.

Like I said before I think the Talia in Batman Arkham games is the best Talia in regards to voice acting and character development.

Maybe I like her more I dont know.

[–] PreachCaleb 9 years ago

The Joker has taken orders in the past.

She may have put a bounty but I dont think she will act like she did in this movie.

Why would you think that? You haven't been reading the comics where Talia is far more of a villain than she was on Batman the Animated Series.

Like I said before I think the Talia in Batman Arkham games is the best Talia in regards to voice acting and character development.

That's fine, but that's only one version of Talia.

Let's be bad guys.

[–] alidede 9 years ago

Could you given an example when The Joker taking orders?

Because I have never seen it. Couple of times it happened it was pure manipulation on his part; tricking people that he is working with them but in the end it was always his agenda and his desires.

[–] PreachCaleb 9 years ago

Luthor's given him orders before. Heck, even in Justice League he follows orders when Grundy tells him to stay away from Batman.

Let's be bad guys.

[–] Minuet888 9 years ago

She kind of wrote off Damian when he chose to stay with his father. Hence why she made the Heretic someone to obey and adore her.

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[–] yourcrazyshow 9 years ago

My guess is Talia changed when Batman put her in the Lazarus Pit in the Son of Batman. It was often stated that anyone submerged in the pit will go insane, thus accounting for her strange behavior in Bad Blood.

[–] jamasian_man 9 years ago

I think the guy who mentioned Joker taking orders from Black Mask was from the Red Hood movie.

Joker ended up betraying him and trying to burn him alive, but that was a different continuity.

[–] bmangibbs 8 years ago

That's exactly my theory as well! In SON OF BATMAN she was being better than her father and caring for her son and all. So I think after being revived from the pit and after a while it went to her HEAD and drove her MAD! So I agree with you there.

[–] jp3183 8 years ago

It was simply inconsistent writing. Talia being heartless towards her son would've made more sense if her change was actually explored. It didn't feel like the same character in this continuity at all.