The TV-movie from 1996 that starred Lela Rochon and Timothy Hutton was enough. This is just desperate Oscar bait. What a smh, people will do anything to get awards, even if they have to copy something that's been done already. Bring back real artist and real filmmakers who know how to create from scratch.
share1. Does it really matter if it's been done?
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2. Hasn't pretty much everything been done?
“All great literature is one of two stories; a man goes on a journey or a stranger comes to town.” Leo Tolstoy
Mildred Loving reportedly didn't like the 1996 film.
shareI am ready for the movie...
shareReally? Interesting, I never heard that. Did she say why?
shareI read she didn't really like it either. I remember she basically said it had little resemblance to her actual life. I think she said the only similarities were that they got married, had three children, and were forced to move to DC. Something to that effect.
Did some searching and here is the quote from an article where she commented on the movie:
Over the years, Mildred has granted few interviews, letting others tell her story through books, articles and a Showtime film, Mr. and Mrs. Loving.
"Not much of it was very true," she said on a recent Thursday afternoon. "The only part of it right was I had three children."
Wow! I always wondered if Mr. Loving was nicer than what he was portrayed. TH kind of portrayed him as being angry.
shareI am assuming you are talking about how Mr. Loving was portrayed in the Mr. and Mrs. Loving movie. I agree. He seemed more angry and outspoken and brash in that movie. A stark contrast from this movie Loving, which given the footage in the documentary, is a lot closer to what the real man was like.
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And yet we have a stock pile of movies about Cleopatra and Mark Anthony, Jackie and Jfk, even Sid and Nancy have two films. Yet we get screams on this.
shareTHANK YOU! How many movies out about British royalty? Enough about privilege. What you really must see is the REAL ACTUAL footage of the Lovings.
shareI have seen real footage of the Lovings. That's why I question this film, because if the story has been told already, then leave well enough alone. But I guess my real problem here is that the filmmakers involved, are just using this whole thing for awards. That's what the bottom line is, I don't think they probably even give a damn about these people and their struggle, their thinking is, let's take a tragic story and see how much adulation we can get. Oh, and I'm not just pointing the finger at these filmmakers, this happens all the time with other one's too, especially around awards season. If these people's motives were genuine, then why not release it earlier in the year? Or better yet, like I said before, if awards is the goal, then be an original artist and create something new for the public to see.
shareBecause Nichols is white he doesn't care about bringing this movie to the silver screen the first time? That he isn't genuine and only award baiting. Plenty of studios hold off on releasing movies to receive Oscar consideration but it's not okay when one of the main characters is black????
Here is a napkin. You have a little racism on your face.
Um, cocobuttr can you point out where in my first or second post did I say anything about race? And secondly, if you read my last post carefully, I do say this filmmaker is not the only one who looks like he's just trying to go after awards, it has been other one's too.
So instead of you getting a napkin for my face, how about you get some eyeglasses and learn how to read carefully.
What a moronic comment.
shareQuen20, I'm just curious. Do you know the filmmakers personally? Did they tell you they don't care about these people and their struggles, that they're only interested in getting awards? Is it possible that they actually do care about the subject matter and bringing it to the attention of a generation that might not be familiar with the story? Perhaps as artists they thought they could mold a good story with heartfelt performances, a production they could be proud of? It is possible, right?
Are all interesting, moving, potentially award-winning productions now suspect just because someone might offer them accolades? I hope not. I hate to think what we'd be left with if that were the case.
Excellent questions bpoz! I wonder how, or if, they will be answered?
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bpoz, no I do not know them personally, and yes you're right, maybe these particular filmmakers are truly genuine about the whole thing and are not just chasing awards. But then again, maybe what I'm saying is true too. Who knows. I just want filmmakers (in general) today's generation especially, to prove their artistry by creating more original scripts and ideas, and stop rehashing stories that have been told multiple times already. That's what I'm challenging them to do. I wonder if the people behind this film (writers, producers, director,etc) would've put together something original, and hired all the same actors they have in this picture, would it have gotten the same attention?
shareIt's not usually the filmmakers who get to decide when a film is released. It's the studios. And yes, they do care about the Oscars. Part of it comes from making money. It's a business. But by being out for the Oscars, it will give it a better chance at being noticed-period. There are many who have no clue about this story. So if it takes this to get people out & see the film-great! You say you have no knowledge at whether the film makers care. Then why say they don't initially? I agree with other posters that we get a million stories about the "famous" people. They have done a tv movie about this from how long ago.....look how many have been born since then who again I say have no clue.
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The thing is, you're barking up the wrong tree where this story about the Lovings is concerned---this isn't one that has been told multipie times, so that's not even a complain you can make about it. And honestly if the filmmakers had wanted to make a big box office commercial film, he could have made something a heck of a lot more commercial than this film which had more explosions and car crashes. The director has mostly made indie films, so he's not even what you would call a Hollywood director to begin with. I also question why you are whining about this movie when there have been so many other movies based on true stories about white people have been remade way more times than this one. Funny how you aren't complaining about that, but the first and only thing you have to say about a film you clearly haven't seen is that it's "Oscar bait." And who are you to say that a story should only be told one time? Get real---like I said before, stories are made and remade all the time. Don't pretend that you don't know that, and stop making a big deal over some film you haven't even seen.
"Hey ... maybe what I'm saying has validity, maybe not!"
Glad you threw out a series of accusations about their motives without actually knowing what you're talking about.
Yes ... I'm absolutely certain that you care deeply that ONLY new stories get told. That's why you've combed IMDB and made this very same point about EVERY movie based on a story that's already been told. I'm sure your reasons have NOTHING to do with the fact that this story is about an interracial couple. You're NOTHING like the morons who go around asking "Why another movie about slavery????"
Actually rdoyle, I don't like the fact that another film about Jackie O is being made. It stars Natalie Portman. I mean do we really need another one of those?
shareJeff Nichols has never made an oscar bait film. You are clearly unfamiliar with his work.
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I can honestly admit that I love the TV-movie Mr. and Mrs. Loving with Lela Rochon and Timothy Hutton, even though I have not seen it since 1996. I can also say that, while good, the main reason I hold it in such high regard is because it is how I found out about the historic case and the wonderful people behind it. I was truly moved by the TV-movie and finding out it was based on real events and people inspired me to learn more. So I researched, and eventually even wrote college papers about the case.
Having said all of that, I think there is a NEED for this movie Loving. I for one cannot wait to see it and will drive out of my local area to see it if I have to. The reasons are simple:
1. The TV-movie was overly dramatic and not incredibly accurate. I get the feeling after The Loving Story documentary that this movie was an attempt to further tell this important story and be more accurate and true to Mildred and Richard. That alone is enough reason for me, personally.
2. Not many people know about this case, the humble people behind it, and how much it changed things - and I think more people should know. Today, there is far more hate and this new movie can help show how important love is. Just the fact that the same reasons people used to deny interracial couples the right to marry are the same reasons people used to try to deny same sex couples the right to marry illustrates the need for a movie like this, especially since it is based on truth.
3. A TV-movie and a big screen movie inherently reach very different audiences. Telling this wonderful story on the big screen can reach many more people. This all relates back to #2, but still deserves a separate spot.
In the end, I believe that if something is important then there is no reason it cannot be told and retold. Each telling can bring the information to new people. Besides that, with each re-telling you get a different interpretation (sometimes this is great and sometimes not). The Lovings' story and fight is one that should not be pigeon holed to one single made for TV movie that only a small number of people probably heard of, let alone saw. In fact, the differences between Mr. and Mrs. Loving, The Loving Story documentary, and I am sure Loving means to me that there is room for all on the shelf of anyone touched by this history and the wonderful power of love.
Well said, BuffySyd.
shareThank you bpoz! I know I typed a lot, so I am happy someone managed to get through it, lol!
I do not check imdb all that often anymore as far too many message boards get so filled with hate, especially ones for TV shows. As my history shows I post even less frequently. It has been literally years since I posted anything, but being so excited for this movie I had to check out the board and, when I saw this thread, I felt compelled to say something. I am working a lot this next week, but hope to be able to see this movie next Wednesday - and I cannot wait!
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They are doing another one because the minority agenda driven degenerate left have to fill the quota for the year.
US film people are obsessed with the idea so let's rehash an old story to reinforce the same point.
It's target audience will love it. The braindead regressive left. AKA Hillary supporters.
That is when they are not rioting
The US, the most sanctimoniously racist Country on earth, about to get worse. I first went to Mobile, Alabama in 1963 as a Merchant Seaman. I hope I never see again what I witnessed.
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Oh, grow the hell up, you whiny-a** brainwashed right-wing nut. The election is over, so you can just STFU with your ignorant statements already. The movie needed to be made in order to remind people that interracial marriage was illegal as recently as only 50 years ago (so it wasn't even that long ago,in terms of history--that's practically yesterday) and there was a long hard struggle to get rid of those racist laws that said black and white people (as well as white people and other non-white folks) couldn't get married. Considering that this was the case for the majority of American history, it's a story worth telling. Enough of that stupid whiny bull**** about the "minority agenda"--fck all that. This story is part of American history. You damn racist right-wingers just don't like to be reminded that the land of the free and the home of the brave was racist as hell toward American citizens who weren't white and treated them like s*** for most of its history. That's the only damn reason idiots like you are even bitching about it. Why the hell else would you feel so damn threatened or bothered by it? Get the fck over yourself already, with your fcking racist stupid, whiny,spoiled entitled trumpf-loving a**.
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That's the same thing I was trying to figure out when I saw the trailer. I guess it's the same reason on why they wanted to remake the movie Roots; for the newer generation. My sister's young childrem saw the trailer and was baffled and curious as to why "those two people could not be together" and what an interracial relationship was.
The original was good, but I think the actors in this one looks more like the real Mr. and Mrs. Loving.
I am just wondering: how many commenting on this thread have actually seen Mr. and Mrs. Loving, recently, AND seen Loving?
I ask because I was finally able to see Loving a few days ago and it is a truly beautiful movie that personifies the real Mildred and Richard Loving and their love story. I made a thread with my full thoughts so if you are interested just look for it. The bottom line is this is a wonderful, must see movie for anyone interested in the Lovings' story. I think it pairs perfectly with the HBO documentary The Loving Story as well. Through both you truly get a full picture of who these two fairly quiet, humble people were.
I also was able to find and watch Mr. and Mrs. Loving again last night and, while I can still say it is good (when looking at it as just a movie), it is not very accurate at all and is definitely overly dramatic. The fact that once the film really starts it says on the screen "Caroline County, VA 1960" had me a scratching my head a lot - you know, since Mildred and Richard were married in 1958 and yet is clearly starts when they first started dating. The liberties taken were numerous and while I understand any movie must take them I think they started off on the wrong foot, for seemingly no reason. I also found the over dramatizations, like the birth of their first child being a fiasco in DC, when he was born in Central Point, VA a bit too much to take. I also found the portrayal of Richard to be off-putting since he is portrayed as more brash and outspoken than the real man seemed to be. I could go on, but I imagine I have made my point. I also admit I probably should have re-watched this before seeing Loving.
In the end, I really think this movie Loving was needed not only to possibly get more people to learn about this powerful story, but also to give us a more accurate and real portrayal of the real people. Mr. and Mrs. Loving, while a good movie and one I will always hold dear for introducing me to the Lovings, simply does not do the couple justice. Through the The Loving Story and Loving I think we get a truer, fuller, and, most importantly, a more accurate picture of Richard and Mildred Loving and who they really were.
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