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This Is Why We Need to Take Involuntary Celibacy and Loneliness Seriously

posted 2 years ago by HarveyManFredSin (4877)
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...instead of mocking and demonising so-called 'incels' (bear in mind, Christine Chubbuck is a WOMAN, so save your 'you're an apologist for misogynists' sanctimonious/pseudo-woke punching down SPLC BULLSHIT for other brainwashed morons...) 😠

'Chubbuck's focus on her lack of intimate relationships is generally considered to be the driving force for her depression. Her mother later summarized that "her suicide was simply because her personal life was not enough." She lamented to co-workers that her 30th birthday was approaching, and she was still a virgin who had never been on more than two dates with a man. Her brother Greg later recalled a man that she had gone out with several times before moving to Sarasota, but agreed that his sister had trouble connecting socially in the beach resort town. He believed her constant self-deprecation for being "dateless" contributed to her ongoing depression.'

Poor lady...This is the likely reason she killed herself.

Seriously, FUCK any of you who mock and demean the LONELY and CELIBATE. These people are dying inside, and your mockery will only create MORE Christine Chubbucks of all sexes/genders. 😠👊🏿

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

Her story does remind one of the modern 'incel' thing.

As a lady she seems to have suffered from PCOS and was likley on the Autism spectrum. Add to that depression and you have an unfortunate mix that is hard to rise above.

She reminds me of 'incels' because she seems to have made a very big deal about her lack of relationship(s). It seemed to define her. In high school she jokingly formed a group called the 'dateless wonder club' and she remarked to co-workers and relatives about her predicament. She spent a good 15 years it would seem beating herself up over being dateless.

It's quite sad reading her story. She was clearly lonely and depressed yet also anecdotally from co-workers she would put up barriers and in a way wallow in her self pity. She was very self depreciating. She allowed her lack of relationships to define her and she also lacked the 'social skills' to work herself out of that rut.

[–] HarveyManFredSin (4877) 2 years ago

I suspect a lot of so-called incels aren't quite as *naturally* offputting and unloveable as they believe themselves to be, but, as you say with respect to Chubbuck, they put up barriers and then proceed to wallow in that 'undateable' identity. She'd so defined herself as that type of person, since childhood it would appear, it was practically impossible for her to break out of it, and yet, as others have noted, she wasn't necessarily lacking in confidence and competence in *other* aspects of her life.

[–] VonFisch (354) 8 months ago

I think some of those actions were because she didn't want people to think it really bothered her, so she made a joke out of it with that high school club and then the later barriers as a defense mechanism. But then at times she'd stress about her situation to others.

But I started to read that Sally Quinn article and one person, I think it was Andrea, the person she was closest to outside family but also involved with her love interest, thought she was very self-centered. However, the lack of any intimate relationships outside her family can cause one to continue to look inward. Like her mom said, it seemed like she did reach out to people, asking if they'd like to go out for coffee, and get turned down, friends or romantic prospects. Pretty sad. I don't think she had any real friends either.

It seemed like they started to like her when she gave herself a "going away" party, that guests didn't realize until after. They said they saw a light side to her and maybe friendships would have developed if she continued to behave in this manner. But her lightness was because she had an end in mind.

Perhaps a lesson to learn is no matter what you feel, if you're lonely, don't mope and show it and don't turn away others in defense. If you're rejected, just try again with others, after you develop an acquaintance. People don't like to be around sad and angry people.

*This* Is Why We Need to Take Involuntary Celibacy and Loneliness Seriously

This Is Why We Need to Take Involuntary Celibacy and Loneliness Seriously