A low rating for a movie that no one has seen yet?
Preview screening's for this movie haven't started yet. So the low rating is totally bogus. The holocaust deniers are out in force and trying to game the rating. Surprise, surprise.
shareHolocaust deniers are an infamously dishonest bunch. But they're also so tremendously frustrated in their little corner of darkness that pretty much down-rating a movie on the IMDb site is as close as they're going to get to having any attention at all in the mainstream. This board is practically a denier honey-trap -- and they're not exactly showing themselves to be geniuses, are they.
shareThey certainly are not! I have a screening to attend of this film shortly -- possibly one of the very first, so I came to IMDB to get a little more info on the film going into the screening, and I was stunned by the rating. It reminded me of the controversy over Ghostbusters -- where folks had tried to game the rating without having seen it. But I couldn't figure out for the life of me why this particular film would be subject to the same sort of trolling. After reading a few of the posts, I quickly figured it out. It's absolutely mind-boggling. Haters gotta hate, I guess, but does it really make up for living in mom's basement? One wonders.
Anyway, it seems to be just about 3 or 4 loons posting over and over again. Keep up the good work -- you're doing an excellent job of fighting lies with facts. It clearly won't change the mind of a single troll, but it makes it much harder for them to win over anyone with half a brain :)
Enjoy the screening! I won't have a chance to see it until tomorrow.
I watched the Irving trial with great interest, and read the various books by the expert witnesses -- my favorite being van Pelt's -- and read the complete transcripts, so it's a bit of a dream come true to see they made a movie of it.
Overall I absolutely agree with your contention about anti-Semitic IMDb members and how curious it is that this film has already been rated before any screening (and as you suggest it's not hard to figure out what type of people are having a film that condemns Holocaust denial a low rating).
However, I'm not sure how helpful elitist insults and tropes like 'still living in mom's basement' is.
Firstly, as Irving proved, many Holocaust-deniers are powerful establishment figures or at least people in positions of apparent respectability. That's what arguably makes their wretched arguments so disturbing.
Secondly, attacking people for being poor and struggling, and thus living at home with their parents well into adulthood, is somewhat unfair in view of the increasing decline in living standards and inaffordability of homes for all but the highest-paid and most economically privileged. By stigmatising people for their economic circumstances and related situation, you actually risk creating the type of resentment that can, if unchecked, result in bigotry and the temptation to subscribe to either far-left or far-right conspiracy theories, and other such dangerous nonsense.
I have no doubt that this film is being marked down by anti-Semites, but neither you nor I know the identity or circumstances of these people, and so to assume it is attributable to the actions of people in financial dire straits, or perhaps people with severe physical and mental conditions that require them to live with family members, is unreasonable and problematically elitist.
Fight the good fight, including winning over people with half a brain, without recourse to snobbery, otherwise progressives and rationalists, like you and I, risk losing the battle for hearts and minds to people and organisations like Irving, UKIP and Donald Trump.
You're wrong Harvey. It's okay to characterize losers as losers. It's people like you who enable them and thereby keep them in their mom's basement by doing so.
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