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I cannot stand people who deny FACTS.


Some things are just plain FACTS and there is no debate.

Flat Earthers, stupid A$$holes who insist the Earth is flat.

Evolution deniers. There is no "believe" in evolution its a god damned FACT.

Are holocaust deniers just people seeking attention? Or are they just mentally ill in some way?

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I don#t know about this flat earth nonsense but Evolution is not factual at all levels, it is merely assumptions.

No one denies that Evolution occurs at a micro level but the proofs of macro level are not really there. Not does it explain how consciousness entered the cell or explain why humans have something no other animal does ie choice.

No one denies that there was Jewish suffering during WW2 but anyone with a more then a few brain cells knows the Holocaust and the whole gas chamber thing is made up. The 6 million figure is also made up. There is plenty of research out there done decades ago. Look at the Leuchter report, Jewish man David Coles visit to Auschwitz, Ernst Zundel, Robert Faurisson, Germar Rudolf, Fredrick Toben etc etc

Jews feel the need to repeat lies because apparently that makes them true?
The Holocaust is the only historical event you cant question.
All of this is for a purpose though. Because the Jews want a New World Order where they have total control of all the population and possession of all wealth and property on Earth. It is much easier to do that while you can play the victim, hence why they made up the Holocaust.

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What a load of crap. Interesting how you haven't a shred of evidence to back up all your lies. You say that evidence exists but you can't produce it. Go back to posting on storm front. You are out of your league.

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I just said check out the works of all those other people. They are professionals. Why don't you look at their work and then make up your own mind? Use your own mind while you still can.

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They are professionals.

Leuchter a professional? Zündel a professional? Faurisson a professional? Hahahaha!

I think what you mean to say is "This barrel of losers is the best we could scrape up, owing to the wall-to-wall idiocy of the Holocaust denial movement."

Because if you point to a guy like Leuchter as one of your intellectual giants, then it's pretty clear you have no intellectual giants.

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The Holocaust is the only historical event you cant question.

What you mean is, Holocaust denial is the only tinfoil conspiracy theory that also has, irremovable at its core, a racist ideology. When you wave your arms around and say that NASA faked the moon landing, what ethnicity have you insulted? When you have your arms around and say that Paul McCartney really did die in 1966 and was replaced by a look-alike, what ethnicity have you insulted? But when you say that the greatest Jewish tragedy of the last several hundred years is really just a Jewish fraud designed to subjugate the goyim ... well, no question where that one's coming from. And that's why the hate speech laws treat Holocaust denial differently than other steaming piles of conspiracy crap.

This is another one of those things Holocaust deniers pretend not to understand because it interferes with their canned talking points.

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"The 6 million figure is also made up."

How so? If it was made up, what's the actual number?

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What is factual about the Holocaust?


The part called the Holocaust. You know -- genocidal plan, gas chambers, six million dead Jews. The stuff Holocaust deniers deny.

Hope this helps, although in your case I doubt it will.

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You know, I'm still waiting for you to display your first original thought. You haven't. All you have is the old boilerplate. You're simply not very good at this, are you.

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Do you realize that Revisionism has thoroughly been debunking the exterminationist myths for decades?

Yes, I'm sure that's what guys like you tell yourselves. Out here in the real world, you're seen as the anti-Semitic cranks you are -- a perception, I should add, you personally are apparently working overtime to promote by your own example.

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There's that buzzword again, "antisemitic."

Have you actually studied what we're discussing? Have you read the Revisionist research, or have you just done that quick google search or articles that seem to refute Revisionism and then call it a day? The research that these scientists have done is totally overwhelming. I don't see how it's even possible for a person who has actually read things like Hoax of the 20th Century to have any faith in the Holocaust at all.

Oh, yes, I actually do: because the Holocaust isn't a matter of reason, evidence, or truth, it is precisely a matter of faith. No matter what research we will bring to the table, you have faith that the Holocaust narrative as told by the media is true. That's the problem.

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Why don't you just tell him that the 4 million number wasn't part of the 6 million calculation? Because you cannot be civil and hold a proper conversation. You want him to feel less of a person from what you can say in rhetoric. That is where genocide develops from! Get a clue. You can't get anywhere the way in which you behave, unless you WANT chaos.

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Holocaust denial is the act of pissing on six million graves. My response isn't even one six-millionth as impolite as what it's responding to.

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I completely forgot about this thread. And I see Zort is projecting his own sense of grandeur over onto me in thinking that I am the one being impolite. It's impolite to act as if one is so elite that they needn'th answer questions in a direct and mannerly way.


Denying an historical event doesn't mean approving it even if it indeed happened...

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Is that a fact?

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I agree completely. What's even more unsettling is the fact that there are many parallels between Tom Wilkinson's character (fact denier, overtly tasteless for the purpose of seeking attention, and unwilling to accept defeat) and Trump's presidential campaign.

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Give me the name of one person to die in an Auschwitz gas chamber.

If it's a "fact" it shouldn't be difficult. Oh and I will be asking for evidence to back up your claim/s. Make them good ones, and let's establish what the "facts" are.

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You are 100% right! They can't prove even one person was killed in a so called homicidal gas chamber using bug spray. But there are plenty of liars who will say it happened.

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Don't try to debate with Zort. That person won't be civil. I actually asked to not be called anti-Semitic/neo-Nazi and he/she was almost civil for a post or so, but then resorted back to name calling and trying to upset me as they intended. Zort thinks on a similar playing field that so-called evil dictator Hitler stood upon.

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