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inaugurating the ZortMcFleen messageboard!

posted 8 years ago by deep-focus
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Zort...you're coming across as either obsessed by this subject, or someone (God?) has given you a mission to "educate" us simpletons who happen to want to listen to both sides of this argument. You have been an IMDB member since 2011 but before you contributed many many dozens of postings to the "Denial" message board you only contributed one other: in 2011 for the doco "Ayn Rand & the Prophecy of Atlas Shrugged". That first-time contribution was the one word comment "Snorefest". Since that taciturn utterance, and after waiting 5 years, you have certainly found your voice here. My compliments!!

You've used this board for skewering everyone from Steve Bannon to those who are interested in the Khazar origin of the Ashkenazi. Don't you understand that by seeking to silence people like Steve Bannon you're only confirming in the minds of many that the Bannon is correct, that he is on the right track and he must be silenced and discredited before he is heard by too many. This is quite intolerant and fascist of you.

As for your rebuttal of the Khazar theory of the origin of the Ashkenazi -- given elsewhere on the "Denial" boards-- you state that the genetic evidence is *clear* -- that the Ashkenazi are *not* descended from the Khazars. This is incorrect. For example, noted Duke University anthropologist and scholar Nadia Abu El-Haj has claimed:--

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the issues of origins are generally complicated by the difficulties of writing history via genome studies and the biases of emotional investments in different narratives, depending on whether the emphasis lies on direct descent or on conversion within Jewish history. The lack of Khazar DNA samples that might allow verification also presents difficulties
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[See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars#Genetic_studies]

In other words, the jury is still out. Zort, your emotional investment is admirable but it can lead you down the wrong track.

[–] ZortMcFleen 8 years ago

tl; dr (too long, dumb rant).

Is someone putting a gun to your head to force you to read my posts? Maybe you should ask him to stop, because you don't seem to be able to handle the strain.

[–] deep-focus 8 years ago

td ; nr (too dumb, nonsensical reply)

No, no one is putting a gun to my head to read your posts -- many of which were very long, BTW! But your reply to my post following the obsessed tirades and hectoring and badgering that you've "contributed" to this board is further evidence of you being, at best, a shill and, at worst, a bully wanting to suppress freedom of speech .

Yes, many many (even one is too many!) Jews were murdered in WW2. So were 20+ million Slavs, and others. The mass-murder wasn't a purely anti-Semitic act. It was ethnic cleansing across a number of groups. To listen to Jews browbeat the rest of us about what happened back then you'd be forgiven thinking that their folk were the ONLY victims. Racist superiority has produced many victims. The Nazis considered themselves the "master race" -- i.e. superior to others. Observant Jews consider themselves God's "chosen people" -- implying that the rest of us are scorned by God --i.e. inferior. Ask the Palestinians about how their Israeli neighbours treat them with contempt...how they've had their land stolen. Ask the Jewish Sephardim how their Ashkenazi neighbours look down their noses at them. No one is immune from this behaviour, right?

Zort, you consider yourself well-informed on this subject. So please answer me this: famed Nazi-hunter, Simon Wiesenthal, spent decades of his life chasing genocidal criminals. He seemed relentless but was also occasionally selective. Why didn't he go after billionaire George Soros, a man who admitted helping Nazis in Hungary persecute his fellow Jews? Odd, eh?