If you went and asked people from different countries whether they think the Holocaust happened how many of them would answer with a I don't give a sh@t attitude because it doesn't involve them. I'm just looking for some opinions on what most people think either way.
shareYeah, I feel the same way about the Black Plague and the Great Flood. *beep* was dry by the time I got here.
Jerky question.
It didn't happen to me, nor my own people. That just sounds selfish. I have no people, really. My cousin once said that our last name has a Jewish feel to it. I always thought it sounded Germanic, which I never cared for. Maybe my ancestors were Jewish...maybe Jewish Germans.
It used to bother me that I felt my surname had a German ring to it. I was on the band wagon of people who hated the Germans for what they did to the Jews during the Holocaust. I still don't like that ordeal they went through, though.
Anyway, I do give two bleeps. Whenever it deals with the death of people, I get concerned. Especially when it's because of their religion. From the Catholics murdering so-called demon possessed witches, to those who were gunned down into pits by the Nazis during what I consider the real part of the Holocaust, it upsets me.
And it would upset me whenever someone turns the other cheek...hmm, sounds like something a supposed great man once said for his followers to do. I dislike demagogues. Rabble-rousers. Those who just want to complicate matters with epithets. They don't listen. And that is what you'd find in a lot of countries. But there are also those individuals that have great respect for human life. I concern myself with it all the time.
A person where I work claims that the meat in certain fast food chains is made of Goyim meat. "For where do those children that disappear every year end up?" He didn't even understand any of what he was referring to. He called it the Illuminate. I knew what he was getting at even if he didn't. I mentioned to him that one might call him an anti-Semite for believing in such a practice. That was months ago, and he still can't believe I don't believe in what he claims. I told him I need evidence. I'm not going to believe it if there's nothing to place that belief on. Much like the Holocaust.
In the end. People will react the way in which they react not only because of where they're from, but what they find relevant. If you asked every person in a group of a hundred people, each and every person will have a differing view. Some might seem the exact same, but there'll always be a detail in which they differ.
Maybe someone here can ask when they are abroad. I know in Poland they mostly see the Holocaust as persecution of Catholics. In the USA, it's the Jewish side. In Russia, it's the Soviet end of the spectrum. Everywhere it means something different.
Denying an historical event doesn't mean approving it even if it indeed happened...
That's exactly why things like this happen, and will happen again and again because people don't care, unless it happens to them but one day it might and you'll be hoping that other people will give a damn and do something.
Also, it wasn't only the Jewish that were killed in the holocaust. Everyone one should care. I feel like if it wasn't for movies though, a lot of people wouldn't even know it happened.
That's sad that you seem to feel that way...and that others might feel that way too.
I guess it all boils down to the ability to relate to other human beings and to empathize with them. Without that ability what makes us as human beings special ? What is it that gives us a heart or makes our lives even matter?
I've always felt great sadness and empathy towards the victims of the Holocaust and wondered how it was even possible to imagine the unimaginable happening to you. They were normal, average people just like we're normal, average people. And some pretty horrifying things happened to them that were beyond their control. How can someone feel nothing for that?
And Yes, I related and felt empathy and a heavy heart for them and I still do and I'm not Jewish.
I've also felt that way about things like Bosnia and Rwanda. It's not exclusive to one horror.
Sometimes seeing fiction or dramatized films might bring a tragedy alive and might help someone like yourself understand the ability to empathize with the victims as familiar human beings like yourself and help you realize that whatever happens to one group of human beings actually affects us all.
I'm sure you've heard the following poem..the last line is important;
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak out for me.
I'd like to answer this one. I'm from an Asian country. I believe the Holocaust happened but I'm not sure about the numbers.
According to the movie, you become a denier if you doubt the numbers. That is, if someone says only 3 million died, he's a denier.
So the real questions are,
A. Will someone from another country give a damn as to how many millions were killed (3M or 6M)?
B. Will someone from another country be keen to throw the word "Denier" at someone who says only 3M died?
C. Will someone from another country who believes the numbers are exaggerated care about a Jew/supporter throwing the word "Denier" at him?
To all three questions, my answer is no. That's not because "it didn't happen to us" attitude but because other genocides/crimes are totally ignored.
Ex- 80% of the native American were killed by invaders. 6-10 million Chinese were killed by Japan.
I'd like to answer this one. I'm from an Asian country. I believe the Holocaust happened but I'm not sure about the numbers.
My point is, I don't really care if,
A. Only 3M killed, 3M died of natural cause/disease
B. Only 5M killed, 1M died of natural cause/disease
C. 6M is BS, only 3M died
D. 6M is BS, only 4M died
E. 6M is BS, only 5M died
It does not make a difference to me. I don't really understand why it should when there are other tragedies we should talk about.
BTW is there a cut off number to determine if one is a "denier"? If someone says only 5.5M died, is he a denier?
It does not make a difference to me.
Yeah.
Like 9/11.
Some yanks ate it.
Who gives a siht?
Didn't happen to me.
Who knows if it really happened, even.
Right?
Right...
Yep. We've devolved into a society that indulges idiocy.
Problem is , and I get it, who gets to decide what's inane and what isn't .
There's no question the world is full of morons. The only question is who are they.
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