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Why the holocaust couldn't be true

posted 8 years ago by tjrff
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The alleged "gas chambers" weren't hermetically sealed. The alleged "gas" (Zyklon-B) would contaminate the whole camp. Also bodies would be infected for hours, and no Haz-Mat suits at the time. The 6 million lies are a scientifically impossible logistic nightmare. The jews use the "6 million" figure long before holohoax. Look it up. From an holocaust ex-believer.

[–] douglasscruggs 8 years ago

Another hating, anti-semite rears his ugly skin head on this post. Did you ever hear of the Nuremberg trials you idiot? The evidence submitted, including the Nazis own words in documents, photographs, film records, and both perpetrator and survivor testimony at at these postwar trials provided inescapable and undeniable documentation and proof of the Holocaust. I bet you believe the Earth is flat too don't you?

[–] ZortMcFleen 8 years ago

The usual idiotic retread of the usual denier lies.

[–] ZortMcFleen 8 years ago

Actually, what the hell, I have a little time to kill.

The alleged "gas chambers" weren't hermetically sealed. The alleged "gas" (Zyklon-B) would contaminate the whole camp. Also bodies would be infected for hours, and no Haz-Mat suits at the time.

Most of this crap comes from Fred Leuchter, the self-appointed execution expert. The Holocaust denier Ernst Zündel paid Leuchter about $35K to write a "scientific report" that "proved" the gas chambers of Auschwitz weren't real.
Leuchter, famously, didn't do a damn thing to learn how the Nazis actually operated their gas chamber, and presumed that everything that was different about them when compared to the US jail counterparts -- hermetic seals, enclosed wiring, etc. -- didn't merely reflect a difference in operation, but rather was taken as "proof" by Leuchter and his idiot followers (and yes, I mean the OP) that the Nazi gas chambers weren't gas chambers because they weren't just like the US ones.
Modern execution gas chambers were designed to kill a single person as quickly and mercifully as possible with mininum health and safety risk to those in the immediate area. That means quickly producing a high concentration of HCN, something that knocks out the person being killed in seconds. The Nazis didn't give a damn about "quick and merciful" and the gas chambers took much longer to work, because they used a much lower concentration of HCN. Like any poison, the health risk is closely related to the concentration. So the dose was fatal, but not instantly fatal, did not produce instant unconsciousness like the US gas chambers did, and was low enough not to create fatal conditions outside when the gas chambers were aired out -- not that the Nazis cared much, as they had delegated Jews ("Sonderkommando") to do the actual gassing and go in and retrieve the bodies later. The idea that Hazmat suits would be required is almost as laughable as the idea that the Nazis would have provided them had they been available.
In short, Leuchter and the denial morons do an apple-to-oranges comparison, and then pretend this proves anything except how little they actually know about the Holocaust.

[–] easyrhino 8 years ago

Buckle up, here comes the name calling as that's all they've got!

BTW; anyone who disagrees with me hates white Americans!

[–] ZortMcFleen 8 years ago

Buckle up, here comes the name calling as that's all they've got!

Well, that's all they've got except, you know, actual fact. See www.hdot.org for the facts.

[–] easyrhino 8 years ago

I'm open minded so I clicked your link.

One of the links led me this info:

Charles Provan wondered if that was really possible to push 700 to 800 people into the size of room Gerstein claimed. He decided to test it for himself. He built a plywood box with a base area of 21 inches by 21 inches. The box had one glass side, two plywood sides, one open side and an open top. He was surprised by the results of his experiment.

Provan found that two young adults (27 and 34 years old), one woman in her seventies, and four children could fit into the box without difficulty. All of the people wore their regular clothing and all were able to breathe normally. Three children (aged 6, 4 and 2) sat down at the adults’ feet while the older child (8 years old) and the three adults stood.

Does this make sense to you? Seven people wearing clothes can fit "without difficulty" in a 21x21 inch space?

[–] ZortMcFleen 8 years ago

Seven people wearing clothes can fit "without difficulty" in a 21x21 inch space?

When only three of them are over the age of eight, as Proven notes, that doesn't seem too odd to me. Comfortable, no. Possible, yes. I think anyone who's ever regularly ridden a crowded subway would agree.

[–] easyrhino 8 years ago

I could fit very comfortably in a 21x21 space with 2 Victoria's Secret models but then add four kids?

BZZZZZZT! Ain't happening, no way!

This is the kind of thing the undermines the tribe's credibility.

[–] ZortMcFleen 8 years ago

Really, "the tribe"? Which "tribe" do you mean, specifically?

[–] easyrhino 8 years ago

Cleveland Indians

[–] ZortMcFleen 8 years ago

Poor guy. Caught with your mouth a little too open about "the tribe" you try to joke your way out of it. But sorry, pard, you can't uptip your hand. Holocaust denial is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theorist by and for conspirowhacks with Jews-run-the-world issues.

Now, admittedly, three adults standing in a little less than four square feet of floor space would be impossible if you did the experiment in some of the obesity-epidemic regions of our country. Then you'd be right: ain't gonna happen. But oddly enough, most of those being packed into the Nazi gas chambers were not from the Big-Mac-for-Breakfast regions of the American south, and were instead likely to have already been victims of Nazi-enforced penury in previous years.