MovieChat Forums > Denial (2016) Discussion > What would have happened to the judge......

What would have happened to the judge.....

posted 8 years ago by yasqothamad
20 replies | jump to latest

....if he had found for Irving?

Remember the recent case where a judge gave a supposedly lenient sentence to that college swimmer who sexually assaulted (not raped) a drunk girl? His naming and slandering all across the establishment legacy media? Organising of protests against him at the court? Funnily enough the sanctity of the judiciary doesn't apply on the rare occasion that they make a decision which goes against the Big Narrative (anti-white, pro-3rd world immigration to white countries but not Israel, etc, you know the drill by now).

If the judge in this case had dared to find for Irving, the attacks and slander against him would have made the case above look like a walk in the park. He would have been hounded, abused, and probably driven to suicide. He took the easy way out.

[–] ZortMcFleen 8 years ago

What would have happened to the judge if he had found for Irving?

You may as well ask what would have happened to the judge had he sprouted wings and took flight. The case against Irving was very, very, very solid, and the case for Irving turned out to be a pile of lies.

But Holocaust deniers have a rich legacy in the rhetoric of failure. They're the team that never scores, hasn't scored in half a century, but won't admit to itself the true reason -- which is that they're crap. So instead they manufacture excuses and ways to shift the blame onto anyone else than their own crap team. And the original post is just another example of this -- the Holocaust denial rhetoric of failure.

It's all you guys have: excuses for losing, losing, losing, and then losing some more.

Ever stop to think -- maybe it's because your position is indefensibly idiotic?

[–] yasqothamad 8 years ago

Sure thing, Shlomo Shekelstein. Given that the Jewish lobby have forced through laws that throw people in prison for asking the wrong questions in many countries - and destroy their livelihoods in many others - it's no surprise not many people are sticking their heads above the parapet for now. But you'd be astonished how many privately question it. And that's just in the West: pretty much nobody in Africa, Asia or Russia (ie the majority of the world's population) has fallen for the old ShoahBusiness Shakedown.

[–] ZortMcFleen 8 years ago

Sure thing, Shlomo Shekelstein.

Scratch a Holocaust denier, find an anti-Semite.

[–] tkidcharlemagne 8 years ago

How is the room in your Tel Aviv mo's basement Zort?

I'M still waiting for that forensic evidence. Cheque waiting to be posted.

You know the forensic evidence proving the lolohoax.

We've already concluded confessions induced through torture (which the soviets, yanks and brits now admit to) are inadmissible.

All you seem to have are a few hundred conflicting accounts by people who financially gain.

Come on shlomo. Give us something. Anything.

We're waiting.

[–] 8 years ago

[deleted]

[–] NeilNR 8 years ago

Don't waste anymore time with this Jew-hater.

I'm about to put him on Ignore along with the rest of those who've showed up here.

3....2......1.......

[–] ZortMcFleen 8 years ago

Already beat you to it with "Kid Charlemagne." Didn't read his last post here. Was it a weepy suicide note, after he was driven around the bend by the oops-too-late discovery that the song he nicked his nym from was written by two Jews, the poor idiotic sap?

As for the OP, actually he's paid in golden shekels the way I am, but his gig is to present himself here as so completely abject a moron one wonders who flips on his lights in the morning, and then pretend to be a Holocaust denier just to make the movement look that much more drool-festooned.

[–] tkidcharlemagne 8 years ago

Still waiting......

So tiresome.

[–] yasqothamad 8 years ago

So much false evidence out there. Never forget (ahem) that for many years there used to be a sign at Auschwitz claiming "4 million died here". LOL! Then it was reduced to 1.5 million, Then 1.1 million. Now, who knows? And then it was quietly admitted that there were no so-called "extermination camps" on German soil, only in the East. So the figure at Auschwitz dropped from 4 to 1 million, and the German camps were ruled out....yet still the overall figure remains at the magical "6 million".

LOL, come on Jews - we know from all the money you've got that you're not that bad at math. That's not even to get into the complete lack of forensic evidence of the remains of the millions of people allegedly killed at these so-called "death camps". You've got is the media and political establishments in your grip, but not the truth, and your grip is sliding as a result: reminds me of the USSR in the 1980s.

[–] tkidcharlemagne 8 years ago

Hence we have Tel Aviv ADL Zort who first posted months before release. They know they're losing the propaganda war.

[–] quintessenz-80437 8 years ago

So the figure at Auschwitz dropped from 4 to 1 million, and the German camps were ruled out....yet still the overall figure remains at the magical "6 million".

This silly "argument" has been addressed several times in this forum already. Inform yourself:

Deceit & Misrepresentation – The Techniques of Holocaust Denial
The Auschwitz Gambit: The Four Million Variant
http://www.nizkor.org/features/techniques-of-denial/four-million-01.html
http://www.nizkor.org/features/techniques-of-denial/four-million-02.html
http://www.nizkor.org/features/techniques-of-denial/four-million-03.html
http://www.nizkor.org/features/techniques-of-denial/appendix-2-01.html

[–] ZortMcFleen 8 years ago

Yep, just another denier drone trying to scam the long, long-debunked plaque gambit, and failing.

[–] ranb40 8 years ago

So much false evidence out there. Never forget (ahem) that for many years there used to be a sign at Auschwitz claiming "4 million died here". LOL! Then it was reduced to 1.5 million, Then 1.1 million. Now, who knows?

This article has an explanation. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1992-05-07/news/9202100662_1_death-wall-auschwitz-memorials
Do you believe it?

And then it was quietly admitted that there were no so-called "extermination camps" on German soil, only in the East.

Who admitted this and when? I see no reason why it matters where the camps were; Germany or German controlled territory.

LOL, come on Jews - we know from all the money you've got that you're not that bad at math.

Which jews are you talking to here?

That's not even to get into the complete lack of forensic evidence of the remains of the millions of people allegedly killed at these so-called "death camps".

Like this? https://www.quora.com/Is-there-physical-scientific-proof-that-Jews-were-gassed-to-death-in-Nazi-concentration-camps

[–] Mikey-Buckets 8 years ago

Lol, waiting for what? Him to prove your idiotic and utterly false accusations wrong? He doesn't have to even remotely do that. You're the one trying to prove a historical fact wrong. Which means you have to disprove the fact, not the other way around.

Your entire defense is based around the notion that the Holocaust is ONLY considered true because of eyewitness statements, and that those eyewitness statements were tortured out of people. And yet, you don't have a shred of evidence that anyone was tortured... To use your pathetic argumentative style... "I'll give anyone $1000 who can prove to me that those eyewitnesses were tortured! Anyone?" (And I wonder where you denier idiots got that completely original idea from? Hmmm... As we talk in the thread of the movie denial...)

Go make another tinfoil hat.

[–] kennellygerard 8 years ago

there will never be a fair film made about irving

hollywood are cowards but then again i wouldn't expect any better from pedophile supporters

[–] mikeos3 8 years ago

The judge doesn't "find" at all. The independant jury returns the verdict.

[–] ZortMcFleen 8 years ago

The Lipstadt/Irving case was a bench trial, rather than a jury trial, by mitual agreement of both sides.

[–] mikeos3 8 years ago

I stand corrected.

[–] ZortMcFleen 8 years ago

In most cases, you're correct. In this case, the defense thought the sheer pile of detail was such that the average juror wouldn't stand a chance, and Irving agreed.

[–] ranb40 8 years ago

He would have been hounded, abused, and probably driven to suicide. He took the easy way out.

You really know the judge that well that you would libel him? Indulging in this kind of libel on an anonymous web board makes you the coward in my opinion.