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I have successfully debunked the Holocaust....

posted 8 years ago by Edzachery
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I have written a thoroughly researched one thousand page academic paper on the Holocaust that proves without any shadow of doubt that it do not happen....it is all a lie....

I am about to have my paper Peer reviewed by a panel of respected historians at Cambridge University....

Once my findings have bee verified (which they will be) I will be presenting my paper to the world's press..........................................said nobody.....EVER......

[–] tkidcharlemagne 8 years ago

Wow Cambridge. Weren't the most pre-eminent Cambridge historians spying for the soviet union. Damn you might have to find another group.

Do you think these universities that are effectively just breeding grounds for SJWs have any credibility in the humanities. Maybe in some scientific and engineering fields but humanities. LMAO

Oh my.

[–] pauliewalnuts-48096 8 years ago

I refer you to Nicholas Kollerstrom. If researchers/academics wish to stay employed, they will not go against the official holocaust narrative.

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[–] ZortMcFleen 8 years ago

Did Paulie really try to deal Kollerstrom as anything other than a mental basket case? Last I heard, he was hanging out with Jim Fetzer writings books about how Apollo 11 is a fake, JFK is a fake, Sandy Hook is a fake, 9/11 is a fake, 7/7 is a fake, Paul McCartney is a fake, the Holocaust is a fake ... almost as if there's a pattern to his conclusions.

Some people are Holocaust deniers because they're froth-mouthed anti-Semites. Some people are Holocaust deniers because they're simply mentally ill. Kollerstrom is an example of the latter.

[–] tkidcharlemagne 8 years ago

Why do so many of the Auschwitz inmates look so fat when the soviets pulled up. Wasn't just a pool. They had football leagues, libraries, brothels, infirmaries, maternity hospitals, post office, several orchestras, theatre.

Why were so many jewish babies born at Auschwitz if it was a death camp for jews. How the hell is a jewish child productive. I thought all the unproductive jews got immediately gassed.

The official story is utter bunkum.

[–] Edzachery 8 years ago

Then collate your evidence......write your academic paper....have it peer reviewed.....and present it to the world's press.....

What could be simpler ?

[–] tkidcharlemagne 8 years ago

It's all out there. A simple jewgle search will reveal it.

Here's the rub though. The cowards run the lunatic asylum which is precisely why you feel so emboldened.

Take heed though. The tide is turning. Trump's new supreme Court pic used to run a group at college called fascism forever.

Soon. Very soon it will be not just a badge of honour being a denier. It will be a pre-requisite.

[–] Edzachery 8 years ago

Good...well then it will be easy for you to write your academic paper....

Looking forward to the press release....I'm sure it will be most entertaining

Btw - give me Trump over Obummer any day

[–] tkidcharlemagne 8 years ago

Glad you approve. You do know the holocaust movement was a key part of getting the multicult into the white man's psyche. Without it there would never have been mass brown,black and yellow migration into our Base. Contemplate that thought.

[–] Mikey-Buckets 8 years ago

Lmao yeah, I'm sure it was a typical 5 star resort at these camps... how insanely delusional do you have to be to believe the nonsense you spew

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[–] pauliewalnuts-48096 8 years ago

Question: Do you honestly believe any academic would remain gainfully employed if he/she wrote anything siding with revisionists?

It would be a one way ticket to unemployment, and you know it. That's why very few dare go against the grain.

Academics require a certain thing called evidence, and there is zero evidence of an extermination policy in Nazi Germany. Yet "gas chambers" are an "established fact"? They should be treated as unsubstantiated claims until proven otherwise (which will be never as they didn't exist).

[–] Edzachery 8 years ago

Looking forward to the publication of your academic paper professor.....

You are about to become the most famous man on the planet....

[–] mr-the-rohan 8 years ago

Well, no they wouldn't get employment because the preponderance of evidence supports the holocaust as a historical fact. It's like asking if a flat earth researcher would get any employment in the scientific community. You deniers, you're racists and see some sort of Jewish conspiracy when one isn't needed. It's not like it's interpretive.

As for your last point... How do you explain - for example - the Posen speeches? Anyway the list goes on and on. Anti-semites don't like the idea of the holocaust because it makes anti-semites look like monsters. Which they are, and were. I mean, the Nazis HATED the jews, and had the military/industrial power to carry out the holocaust. Why is it so hard to believe that they did? What do they say in court? Means and opportunity? They certainly had the motive. 'WE HATE JEWS!!!!! Oh, but we won't kill them, we dont 'hate' hate them!' It's like 911 truthers not asking themselves what the point of blowing up a building is when you've already flown planes into them... What's the point in even bothering with your lame 'alternative theories'? It's kinda cute, because no-one takes you seriously and you'd be laughed at if anyone met you but you feel so superior! TOO CUTE >_<

Also, the deniers who have posted created accounts for the express purpose of commenting. Must have made them so angry! Poor darlings :)

[–] tkidcharlemagne 8 years ago

The claim of preponderance of evidence without stating a single element of it except....ahh the Posen speeches.

I see hoax hoax hoax. My God a regime that would claim the Katyn wood holocaust was committed by the Germans. A regime that would claim jews were turned into soap, lampshades and had their heads shrunk. A regime that would use diesel engines to suffocate Jews; one of the most preposterous unscientific and utterly debunked theories ever created. That last one still persists doesn't it.

Anyway it's all in the translation.

Within the 'speech', he talks about the "extermination of the Jews" using the German verb
Ausrottung

"In 1993, Robert Wolfe, supervisory archivist for captured German records at the National Archives
admitted that a more precise translation of Ausrottung would be extirpation or tearing up by the
roots. Wolfe also pointed out that in Himmler's handwritten notes for the speech, that Himmler used
the term, Judenevakuierung, or evacuation of the Jews, not extermination.

Cassel's German and English Dictionary

Geezus you're born as a sentient being yet you persist to exist as an amoeba.

[–] mr-the-rohan 8 years ago

So each and every witness - including already-imprisoned SS guards - are also hoaxes? To further a giant Jewish conspiracy? There's no point arguing, you'll never change your opinion, people like you don't. I bet you believe 911 was some kind of Jewish conspiract too. It's not up to me to prove the holocaust happened, the burden of proof is on you.

Anyways, I hope it all makes you really angry, like really mad, that society accepts the holocaust as fact when you know it's not. It must be frustrating! I mean, to create an account just to comment on the film rather than letting it go. It must really get to you. To know that there's this Jewish conspiracy that all the sheep blindly believe... It must make your blood boil. Good! >_< Trolololololol :)

[–] tkidcharlemagne 8 years ago

Lol I'm so happy. Another lolohoaxer admitting it. All you have are jew witnesses and a few misguided blackmailed guards.

Not a shred of evidence and you've backflipped all within the space of a single reply.

The goyim know

Shut it down.

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[–] mr-the-rohan 8 years ago

Aw baby, fantasies of raping Jewish women in a nice shiny SS uniform I bet. Bet you've never really felt powerful before, but one day you'll show everyone huh? Naw baby. I'm guessing middle aged, fat or just poorly put together, unskilled job... maybe white trash upbringing with delusions of academia? But basically you're a loser. You're pretty openly racist, and seemingly proud, so you can't be very successful - your kind generally aren't. And you're waaaaayyyy too deep into this to be a younger person with a life. I assume single, I doubt women can stand you, you probably seem quite piggish and unpleasantly arrogant to them. I wonder if you also fantasise about being someone powerful in the 1000 year Reich, if the Nazis didn't lose so badly. Do you have a uniform you try on sometimes? I'm probably not that far off, am I? Btw, why is it that all deniers are so painfully antisemitic? I mean, do you reckon that your hatred of Jews might affect your judgement when you're forming opinions about a crime perpetrated against the Jews (among others)? Just a thought. TROLOLOLOL :)

[–] pauliewalnuts-48096 8 years ago

The only "evidence" is testimony and confessions (which were extracted via torture) - the same degree of evidence there was for witches. People claimed to have seen witches; people confessed to being witches.

The holocaust (as alleged) is as believable as witchcraft. There is no physical evidence for either. People who (rightfully) didn't believe in witches were slandered; people who (rightfully) don't believe in the holocaust are slandered. In 50-100 years, people will laugh at how some fell for the ludicrous holocaust myth.

And as for these witnesses, only a handful actually claimed to have seen any gassings or gas chambers. Those who have claimed to witness these, their testimonies have all been ripped apart.

Give me the name of one person whose testimony you think is most reliable and I will tear it to shreds. Same goes for "confessions" from Hoess, Eichmann etc.

Pick your poison...

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[–] mr-the-rohan 8 years ago

Burden of proof is on you darling. Burden of proof is for you to disprove all the evidence gathered thus far. Historians do their job so we don't have to. I doubt your profession - if you have one - is as noble. You're just a hack who fancies himself as a dashing anti-establishment academic, who is too smart to eat with the rest of the sheep. You're like an anti-vaxer or a flat earther, you shouldn't even be debated, because you don't matter. You can keep not believing it and let it make you mad, but the fact is everyone else will continue to believe it. I chuckle when I think about how angry and superior you must feel, at the same time. The fact you started an account just to spout your *beep*

I would encourage everyone else to ignore you, just people in your every day life must ignore you. It's so pathetic. Sit down an debate a historian, but I doubt they'd give you the time of day either. Do you like the fact that if people knew what you thought, in your day to day life, they'd probably think you're scum? Maybe they do already. Do you know why? Because you're racist and you're pathetic and no-one cares what you think.

[–] pauliewalnuts-48096 8 years ago

Hmm... two insults but no testimony. Typical.

Burden of proof is for you to disprove all the evidence gathered thus far.

What evidence? There is zero physical evidence. It all rests on ludicrous testimony and coerced confessions. Hence, that's why I have asked you to produce testimony for examination, but you have failed to do so because you know it will not stand up.

Present your evidence or admit you have none...

[–] mr-the-rohan 8 years ago

I don't care what you think, just like no-one cares what you think. Lols! Why would I waste my time dealing with scum like you? I've got a better idea... go buy a book on the holocaust and debate the author. Or something. Jesus. Why do you care so much?? People who are more intelligent and educated than you disagree. In fact, the bulk of the historical community disagree. You're pathetic. As far as I'm concerned there's no debate to be had. Just like I'm not going to bother to debate anyone on evolution or the shape of the earth. Others have done the job, so whyyyyyyyy are you debating it on an imdb board? if you're such a scholar, go write a book or something. No-one cares what you think. Just deal with it. You're wrong, and rather unpleasant. And I'll bet that people who actually know you agree. Most people I mean, I'm sure you have a few other overdue abortions to slink around with.

I choose option three: I'm not going to 'present my evidence' because I don't need to. You're scum, and not worth anyone's time or attention. Go attend an anti-zionist convention or watch some youtube videos. If I sound childish, it's only because it's how everyone should treat people like you. Why don't you do something useful with your life? It's not infuriating it just makes me sad now pathetic a person can be. Weren't you a child once with hopes and dreams? Where did all that go? Just please crawl back to whatever hole you came from and die. Trust me, the world will be better for it. Absolute scum.

[–] pauliewalnuts-48096 8 years ago

Once again you fail to provide testimony. Instead you go on a childish rant. It was the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and going la-la-la over and over again. Quite sad and pathetic really.

If you can't take me on in a debate, just admit it and bow out. You don't have to go on a rant that makes you look foolish. Be a man, admit you haven't researched the topic enough to discuss it and move along. Simple.

Now go have a nice lie down and let the grown ups talk.

[–] Mikey-Buckets 8 years ago

LMAO OMG Hilarious....

You act like you've even made even one single compelling argument for your case, or have even provided shred of evidence in your favor. You've "researched the topic" and yet still can't provide a shred of evidence supporting your delusional claims lol.

"Quite sad and pathetic really"

[–] ZortMcFleen 8 years ago

Remember, to a Holocaust denier, "research" means watching a YooToob video by Bunker Billy Arschloch and Aryan Andy while going "hyup! hyup! hyup! That Bunker Billy shore is smart, hyup! Done plumb convinced me, hyup!"

[–] pauliewalnuts-48096 8 years ago

You act like you've even made even one single compelling argument for your case, or have even provided shred of evidence in your favor. You've "researched the topic" and yet still can't provide a shred of evidence supporting your delusional claims lol.

As I have said countless times:
Not one German document from the millions obtained after the war mentions anything to do with extermination.
After cracking the Enigma Code, the Allies could decode every message from the camps - again, not one single mention of extermination.
There are no ashes, teeth or bones of the alleged millions of exterminated people.
No alleged gassing victims have ever been identified.
Not one of the countless autopsies performed on the dead bodies in the liberated camps found homicidal gassing to be the cause of death.
There was not enough fuel or ovens to cremate the allegedly exterminated in the given time frame.
No written order from Hitler. No budget or plan for extermination.

That's just the tip of the iceberg, Mikey. Very basic stuff. Now try to counter the above points I made and we'll take it from there...

[–] Mikey-Buckets 8 years ago

LMAO wow... the funny thing is you actually think THAT is a compelling argument of any kind hahahahahahahahahahahahaha awesomely hilarious.

Not only is half that absolutely false, it isn't even proof of anything lol.

If THAT is the tip of the iceberg... It's a very small iceberg... Perhaps you mistook that for an ice-cube instead? Or perhaps an optical illusion?

[–] pauliewalnuts-48096 8 years ago

LMAO wow... the funny thing is you actually think THAT is a compelling argument of any kind hahahahahahahahahahahahaha awesomely hilarious.

Not only is half that absolutely false, it isn't even proof of anything lol.

Not even an attempt to explain one of the points I made. Writing Haha over and over again may work with children, but you only make yourself appear more foolish when dealing with adults. You are clearly dodging the argument. It's pathetic.

Now let's try that again. I have given you points which indicate extermination didn't happen. You have to counter them or admit you can't do it.

Now get countering if you can...

[–] Mikey-Buckets 8 years ago

Dodging the argument?? Haaaahahahahaha funny thing is, I already debunked your entire way of thinking and you're too stupid to realize that. I never even engaged in your pathetically constructed lies that are disguised as some sort of factual argument... because your "alternative facts" don't deserve to be engaged with.

Your entire argument is based on the notion that "people can't prove" certain things, that were erased from history by the very people that information would destroy... The Nazi's destroyed information that would have been detrimental to themselves???? Imagine that?!?!?!?!?!

Your whole way of thinking is obscenely flawed... YOU are the one who has to disprove the historical facts. A concept that has very obviously evaded you. And your "tip of the iceberg" points hilariously do absolutely nothing to help your argument.

[–] ZortMcFleen 8 years ago

The Nazis tried to do two contradictory things at the same time -- wipe out the Jews of Europe, while covering up the crime. When the Nazi regime was falling apart, and the eastern front was collapsing, and it was time to choose between the two, Nazis chose the latter: kill all the Jews they could, and abandon the coverup.

[–] pauliewalnuts-48096 8 years ago

The Nazis tried to do two contradictory things at the same time -- wipe out the Jews of Europe, while covering up the crime. When the Nazi regime was falling apart, and the eastern front was collapsing, and it was time to choose between the two, Nazis chose the latter: kill all the Jews they could, and abandon the coverup.

Really, Zort? Then why did the Germans leave a couple of thousand living, breathing men, women and children behind when they left Auschwitz?

If the motive was to kill as many Jews as they could, why did only six of the thousands of camps have (alleged) extermination facilities? Why were they not killing Jews in Dachau, Buchenwald etc.? Come on, Zort, I thought they were hell bent on wiping out Jews. Why did they let so many live?

Your narrative has more holes than Swiss cheese.

[–] Edzachery 8 years ago

Looking forward to reading your academic paper professor paulie....looking forward to it v much.....

[–] Mikey-Buckets 8 years ago

YOU already admitted they didn't have enough time or supplies to kill them all! HAHAHAHAHAHA thanks for proving you're the pathetic hypocrite we all knew you were.

[–] pauliewalnuts-48096 8 years ago

YOU already admitted they didn't have enough time or supplies to kill them all! HAHAHAHAHAHA thanks for proving you're the pathetic hypocrite we all knew you were.

Sweet Jesus, you really are slow. I never once said they didn't have the time or supplies to kill them if they had wanted to; I said they didn't have enough ovens to cremate the alleged number of murdered people in the alleged time frame. Reading is not your strong point, is it?

Once again you've made yourself look like a complete idiot.

[–] Mikey-Buckets 8 years ago

LMAO yeah, says the guy who continues to claim I've said one thing about cremation.

And that's some nifty logic right there, and I look like the idiot? LOL laughable.... You LITERALLY JUST SAID on the other thread, that they "didn't have enough time or fuel to kill them all in the alloted time"... But now they COULD have if they wanted to? And we all know that they didn't want to kill all the Jews (blatant sarcasm in case you missed it, like all the other times).

If by saying "reading isn't my strong point" you mean that I have a hard time understanding the nonsensical babble of a retarded Nazi apologist? Then sure, you got me.

[–] ZortMcFleen 8 years ago

Looks like you're discovering why I put Paulie on ignore. Not only are his arguments old, wrong, and long-debunked, but he has great trouble even formulating them.

[–] Mikey-Buckets 8 years ago

Haha I know Zort, I just find it somewhat entertaining. Sometimes retard logic can be fascinating to listen to, in how outlandish and illogical it can be. I like to see how ridiculous people can be, and these people here are definitely some of the most ridiculous.

[–] pauliewalnuts-48096 8 years ago

You LITERALLY JUST SAID on the other thread, that they "didn't have enough time or fuel to kill them all in the alloted time"... But now they COULD have if they wanted to?

Wrong...
You're a bold faced liar. I never once LITERALLY said they "didn't have enough time or fuel to kill them all in the alloted [sic] time." You are deliberately misquoting me. You are a deceptive liar, but one who lacks in intellect so your tricks don't work.

Firstly, I know how to spell "allotted." Secondly, I have continuously said they could not have CREMATED the alleged number of victims in so little time with so little fuel. I never once said it was impossible to kill X amount people in X amount of time.

Your reading comprehension is pitiful, it really is. You need an education.

[–] Mikey-Buckets 8 years ago

Then thank you for proving absolutely nothing... once again. So they COULD have killed them all during that time. Thanks. Your entire argument fails. But that's nothing new.

And thanks for spell checking on something as informal as this. Pathetic.

The only one here who needs an education is you. You're trying to refute a historical fact that everyone learned in elementary school.

And thank you for calling what I say "tricks". And since we've already established that you're hypocritical as all hell, we know that it's actually you trying all the "tricks"... "No holes, no Holocaust!" "Give me the name of someone whose existence has been erased?" Cheap parlor tricks that prove absolutely nothing, and aren't even in the slightest bit original.

[–] pauliewalnuts-48096 8 years ago

Then thank you for proving absolutely nothing... once again. So they COULD have killed them all during that time. Thanks. Your entire argument fails. But that's nothing new.

The argument has never been about having X amount of time to kill X amount of people, you moron. Hypothetically, an army could kill millions in one day by a multitude of means. Killing isn't logistically hard; getting rid of the bodies is.

The argument centres on the cremation of the alleged victims. People like you and Zort say the Nazis cremated ALL the victims, turned them to ashes, sent them up a chimney, completely erased them, blah blah blah. It is the excuse people like you use when asked why was one single "gassed" body never recovered? But as it was logistically impossible to cremate the alleged number of victims in such a small time frame with so little fuel, the bodies must be somewhere. So where are the victims' bodies?

Are you finally getting it? They COULD NOT have got rid of all the alleged victims in that time frame with so little fuel. So if they did in fact murder all those people, where are their bodies?

I repeat: Where are the bodies, Mikey?

[–] Mikey-Buckets 8 years ago

Laughably pathetic as per usual.

Never once claimed "the Nazi's cremated ALL the victims".

And there are plenty of remains and bodies. YOU'RE the one claiming that every single body and remain are "ONLY from sick people", which isnt even close to proven, and also insanely convenient for your argument. Not only is that obviously false, it's logically retarded to think that.

[–] pauliewalnuts-48096 8 years ago

Never once claimed "the Nazi's cremated ALL the victims"

OK... they didn't cremate ALL their victims is your new line of defence, even though your previous mantra was there is no evidence because they turned all their victims to ashes.

If that is the case, how come not one of the autopsies performed on the thousands and thousands of bodies recovered in the concentration camps showed death by poison gas?

EVERY body examined died from illness or malnutrition. Not one showed any signs of HCN poisoning. Even holocaust historians admit that, you idiot. The body of a "gassed" person has never been found - that is not even up for debate. It shows how little you know about this topic.

So, Mikey, if they didn't have time to cremate all their alleged "gassing" victims and not one "gassed" body has ever been recovered, where are all these bodies?

[–] Mikey-Buckets 8 years ago

"OK... they didn't cremate ALL their victims is your new line of defence, even though your previous mantra was there is no evidence because they turned all their victims to ashes."

You're saying the exact same thing, you absolute retard. Never claimed they cremated ALL their victims, and I thought it would go without saying that I never claimed they turned ALL their victims to ash (because THOSE WOULD BE SAYING THE SAME FCKING THING. WOW you are retarded.)

You're completely making up bogus quotes, claiming I said them, and then arguing against those. You're really just arguing with yourself, which you've pretty much been doing this whole time.

Simple logic and reasoning continue to completely elude you.

[–] Mikey-Buckets 8 years ago

"Shows how little you know about this topic." As you continue to make ridiculous and retardedly false claims with zero evidence to back up anything you say. Apparently you don't need any evidence, because "your claims are true simply because you stated them".

And by using that pathetic logic, me "claiming" you're retarded, automatically makes it true. (Even though I've used plenty of ACTUAL evidence to prove that claim)

[–] mr-the-rohan 8 years ago

Nah, go write your own book. Why should we bother to argue with you? Your mind's made up. No-one cares if you don't believe it. We do (believe it I mean) and we defer to historians. You're scum mate, total scum. You're backed up by liars and racists. I'm just really curious what the point of all this is, coming on an IMDB message board to debate whether the holocaust happened. Go debate scholars if you're such an expert. Unlike you, we don't devote what seems like an inordinate amount of time to the subject. Go on, change history, go out there and convince historians with your academic brilliance.

[–] Mikey-Buckets 8 years ago

Huh, then why not take your argument to court? Or write a book???

Oh wait! You can't, because you know your "alternative facts" won't hold up anywhere LMAO.

"Present your evidence or admit you have none" - Should have said that to yourself in the mirror.

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[–] ZortMcFleen 8 years ago

Damn, your asylum must have run out of thorazine.

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