I think Dev is right about Will and Grace.

He claims that there is only one gay man on that show when clearly there are two, but I agree with him that there is a way that there is only one.

Because I am a Hindu like Dev is supposedly and the Bhagavad Gita is not our bible and most hindus don't read those thirty pages, if you were going to put it at more or less than fifty percent, but the way it's compared is that if you really continue the analysis, even some strange points like cows, the way he's talking it's hard to argue with.

Anyway claims that there is a masculine and feminine side associated with everyone but some people are born preferring the same sex physiologically. It's how they are born, a genetic preference. Now how would you know if you were gay? Well he puts it this way. If you slept with (and you know what that means) about 35 women and you have never been in love, it is time to try a man.

By the time someone does that and they never found somebody, maybe they are gay, but homosexual sex may be traumatic to some with a heterosexual preference. But a homosexual if they wanted to, the one that was born that way, could service the whole town of the opposite sex and keep up with mental stability beautifully, whereas imagine the mental strength a heterosexual would need to sleep around and not be a mess....

Now I saw most of like the first three or four seasons of Will and Grace... I would guess like seventy episodes but it takes a lot to keep up with TV so I barely watched the last half.

And the first time I saw the show, they were playing pictionary and my natural thought at 16 was "Why is this gay man married to that woman". That was the first thought within the first couple of minutes.

But as the show went on, Will and Grace had thoughts of reproduction and Will shied away. He was afraid of the, excuse the crudeness of this, of the punnani effect on him in a way that if a man was gay by physiology it wouldn't be much of an issue to sleep with a woman. He would be able to do it beautifully and excessively while holding onto a mental sanity that few heterosexual men can uphold.

So I think he was gay by will or trying to practice celibacy and NOT reproduce because he didn't want children... and the woman that would have been his love interest was graceful about it, but the way he avoided it, he may have been afraid of pursuing that relationship further and then risk having children... I think he was a man that by nature was heterosexual but BY CHOICE could either be classified as homosexual OR celibate because what he was trying to do was reduce his desires (even self love, what he does with women, and then what he does with men it can't be that often compared to what else he would have been doing if that's his situation, he's doing it to relatively desexualize, so he can avoid this reproduction effect if he was gay that way...)

But because of a similarity in religious background to Dev, I'm not sure if he's 'gay' either, or gay physiologically. I think he is gay by 'Will' so he can avoid having babies. He would have feelings and all that and be swept a way but in such a manner that he would have to bear fruit that is what his ultimate goal is to avoid.

Or at least that's what I thought by the end of it, by the time I saw half the episodes. The other guy, there's no real in front of my face if I check with my religious texts right there so openly seen to question whether is he is gay by nature or if he is trying functionally inch close to 'celibacy' in some form, if he would prefer to be classified that way... who knows so if he says he's gay I'll take it at face value and not question how. But the other guy 'Will' to be physiologically gay and not use to be gay by will or practice celibacy at the level he could by will, and respond to Grace the way he did, I think he was conflicted about his physiological sexuality and the future with child bearing if he gives into it...

So i see it the same way. There COULD be just one gay guy or that could be so in a manner of speaking. But I only saw about half the episodes; that show was on forever.

Now there would still be a way that he could be classified by preference as 'gay' OR 'celibate in some form' but since Dev is the 'Master of None' or a tamasic character like that new show I haven't checked out but 'Kevin Can Wait' (since he can wait he is a tamasic character, but he could be that big and something else based on components) the name implies that he is a tamasic category man and because of that he would be looking for underlying physiological components first so that's a point he wants told but knows it's just too much to get into unless the guy wants to discuss it further.

There's also gay by desire. These old world concepts that if a straight man for example could force himself to have relations with another man's genitals, he or she (vice versa style) would be so messed up from it that he would probably bang 100 women, or so many that the number won't even matter from forcing himself to engage in sexual intercourse... now is he he gay? It's up to him to say.

But this is the master of none, a show glorifying the Tamasic male's qualities, so he is thinking more along the lines of physiology or nature rather than desire or will and if a guy wanted to build himself to become the most he can be from the factory settings, should Will classify himself as gay or celibate?

Because in the show the graceful woman if she chose will, effectively at the end of the day when all those subconscious desires are understood, she gave up her child. But if she chooses Will over reproduction then all the gave up was sex (with each other at least) which is relatively petty compared to the time together... Will's conflict regarding reproduction that he can't fully understand, but doesn't want to impose on his would be partner is what the show is about. How they both looked pretty gay at the start but how you can clearly see from some religious background that one is questionable whether it's a physiological thing or a desire for celibacy and no reproduction... it ends with me. It's questionable but I know what Dev means.