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A statement by a default MGTOW

posted 9 years ago by bloodyfootprints
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This is just a statement that I'm going to make; and it's not meant to offend anyone who reads it (male or female). My statement isn't even about the film itself or how good or bad I thought it was. I don't have much to say or care about the racial message in this film, because I'm a whitebread who lives in a safe city with no discernible gun-related violence. My statement, or observation, relates to the tool used by Lysistrata to exact change for her people: The Sex Strike.
While I have a healthy sense of exercising suspension of disbelief when I watch movies, the following kept nagging at me throughout this one. Withholding sex couldn't work today. There is printed media porn (along with masturbatory option), internet porn (also with masturbatory option), women who would betray the cause, prostitutes who would not honor the cause (whether openly or as a betrayal to the cause since they could jack their prices up due to supply and demand issues), and the final one which I would fall under myself (and is the reason why I felt that I should post this).
There would be multitudes of men whom this wouldn't even effect. These days we choose to call ourself MGTOWs. This means Men Going Their Own Way. Essentially, we are males who have cut women out of our lives. While there are many who have been married or in relationships and woken up to the freedom of commanding our own lives (men who have plenty of options to pick from with regards to women but choose to refrain), the majority is like me. I am disliked by women. I am short, lesser than a five on the scale of 1 to 10, and have nothing to offer that any women want (looks, money, success, etc). This means that I am a MGTOW by default. My last relationship ended in April of 1995 and that was because she found someone better. I have been without sex since then. That is more than 20+ years without sex, if your math is straight, and, remember, not by choice. No sex. None. 20+ years. Got it?
So, here's my statement. There are legions of guys out there like me. You may know some. You may pity them, despise them, or see them as pathetic. If any women tried a "Sex Strike" on us not-by-choice MGTOWs... Let's just say that it would be a sad affair if something important, like in this film, was on the table. Because we would tell them all to go to motherf....! Sorry. I'm sure you get the point coming from us loser-nobody guys who don't look ripped, cut, and dangerous like Gangsta P and his rival One-Eye in this here movie. We're the guys that girls don't even know exist (unless they accidentally tripped over us) and typically one doesn't value much or miss that which they don't or ever will have. That's my statement. Oh, and I thought the movie was entertaining. It was one part funny, one part sad, one part political commentary, and one part social commentary...rolled into a fat Spike Lee Joint.

[–] activista 9 years ago

You obviously have serious issues with women---get some therapy.

[–] bloodyfootprints 9 years ago

I'm in therapy right now. My therapist is a woman! Boom, still got it! :)

[–] Sheldonshells 9 years ago

You obviously can't understand sh-t. Wow a simpleton's reduction of what the OP was saying. Get some thinking skills and come back and properly reply sometime.

[–] Sheldonshells 9 years ago

I dig what you're saying man, and all the power to you for getting by and doing your own thing, and saying FU to what women (and the so-called alpha males) demand from you. Although I hope you're not really self-loathing about it. As in I hope you don't really mean it when you say, "us loser-nobody guys" and are being sarcastic. It's a powerful thing to get on with life the way you are despite and even in direct reaction agaisnt the BS, the way the MGTOW guys do.

In fact, a movie or TV series about MGTOW characters would be a much more interesting, innovative, and RELEVANT movie than any age-old feminist BS these days. And certainly more relevant and interesting than the limited scope of male characters you usually see in movies.

I think a cool movie or TV series about MGTOWs would be about the ones who are NOT by default (as you say you are). It would be cool to see a movie about men who are successful, good-looking, and happy, and yet choose to be MGTOW due to the insanely unfair legal power women have over men (mandatory arrest, preponderance of evidence rape laws and policies, ridiculous divorce laws, permanent alimony, etc), as well as a media culture ready to jump to the woman's side without any evidence presented or allowing any say from the man. How about a movie, for instance, about these kind of dudes who themselves withhold sex from women, and bring them to their knees for a change, until some of thee ridiculous anti-male laws and attitudes in the culture change.

I had a friend who tried this. He withheld sex from his girlfriend and after two weeks she was blubbering and crying, "Why don't you love me anymore!!!" LOL! See, it CAN work!

I think someday there will be movies like that. Could be someday soon. Only a matter a time really before someone with right combination of balls and intelligence will do it.

Btw, you forgot fully functional sexbots, which seem to be coming along (no pun intended). When female sex bots arrive, that has real potential to bring women to their knees. That combined with legal prostition would basically make women's sexual power over men kaput. Of course, there's stil the legal power, but those things could be used to eventually change those anti-male laws and policies to make things more actually egalitarian and fair.

Then maybe someday the war can stop and men and women can actually start to respect and love each other again.

[–] bloodyfootprints 9 years ago

Yes. I agree with your idea of both the need for some film from the MGTOW POV, as well as that they should/could be coming our way soon. However, a body of work like that (be it film, tv, or net-series driven) would probably get a lot of flack and end up on the trash-heap of history; due to the fact that the typical gender-roles sell and put butts into the seats. One of the most cringe-inducing setting, for instance, is a RomCom film on the weekend. I enjoy them and they tend to have a few laughs, regardless, but the couples (usually the conniving-by-stealth girlfriend/wife and the docile boyfriend/husband being duped into the theater, to pay for the tickets, snacks, and with what's left of his functioning brain-cells). Oh well, that's just the way of the world. Nothing to get too bent out of shape over. But, it never hurts to at least be aware. Thanks for your reply.

[–] Sheldonshells 9 years ago

You never know what's going to end up on the trash heap of history. A lot of things that were considered too dangerous or unconventional before ended up being winners in history, not losers. There's lots and lots of examples of that actually.

And I don't know but it seems like the way of the world is the way that people make it, and if you convince enough people and get enough people on your side through the power of art, persuasion, rhetoric, or whatever, then the way of the world becomes that. Fact is, in 2016, if a man's girlfriend makes as much or almost as much as him, and if he keeps up his appearence and stays in good shape etc, and yet he's still paying for her like she's a cheap whore and not going to speak up about this one bit, then he's just a little worm and a chump and shouldn't be called a man. That's the way of the world.

Anyway, keep it real friend.