WTF

Why should i 'try again', I understand the film and you don't. She wasn't a moron for choosing her side and that side was the infected people who were not mindless zombies just like her. They won, they rule the world now. If she choses the humans side, she dies and the humans probably lose anyway, she made completely the correct decision based on her situation.

She just killed humanity for no reason.

Also those kids were pretty mindless.

I explained the reason, you are free to like or dislike that reason, but you are not free to say there is NO reason as there clearly was.

For mindless zombies, They tricked and took down that moron soldier pretty quick...but no, they weren't mindless they were just feral, with no parents or society to teach them a way to behave. But nothing actually wrong with their brains, they were all sitting nicely learning from the teacher at the end.

Right, that she had a strop.

They didn't really trick him, they just ran and eat him. They acted EXACTLY like mindless zombies.

No, she realised that in the circumstances she had as much right to survive as the humans did.

Sorry I thought you had at least seen the film. Their actions were very far from mindless, they operated like a pack of wolves, luring and surrounding their prey in a trap and then striking some quick blows to weaken and panic the prey before attacking in force.

Sorry but you are not convincing me that you have any understanding about this film.

because if she has as much right, then they have as much right.

Exactly, mindless zombies.

Did you see the film?

What are you talking about? Why should she care about the rights of the losers? Survival doesn't care about the other sides rights in a fight to the death.

Nope, but as you have nothing meaningful to post you are now just trolling.

Nope, its all just guesswork...

and I still understand the film better than you do.

How have I changed my stance? She has as much right as humans do to survive. However She doesn't care about their rights, only her own. Glenn Close doesn't care about the infected rights only her own. Each side only cares about their own survival in the end.

Her species can eat normal food. She eats animal meat just like humans do. She has plenty of food in the supermarkets and farms. In future her species will farm the land like we do now. I have explained this already.

Oh please, you've been doing but trolling.

Evidently not. Try again.

How have I changed my stance? She has as much right as humans do to survive. However She doesn't care about their rights, only her own.

Glenn Close doesn't care about the infected rights only her own. Each side only cares about their own survival in the end.

Her species can eat normal food. She eats animal meat just like humans do. She has plenty of food in the supermarkets and farms. In future her species will farm the land like we do now. I have explained this already.

nope, I have patiently been explaining some pretty basic stuff to someone as I would a child.

Your capacity to learn is not quite up to the standard of a normal child but I am trying my best.

What evidence is there that you understand anything about this film?

The questions and comments you make seem quite stupid and are probably just trolling.

You have the correct answers, what you do with them is up to you.

Ignored from now on.

While it is true the little girl killed the entire human race, she had been told it was doomed anyway (ie the doctor told her when the congregation spore pods broke open it would be the apocalypse, and they could break open at any time, and there was more than one (she mentions one in Dublin for instance)).

That "kind of" excuses it I suppose, though it is still bollocks.


As to you mentioning that the kid zombies will have killed themselves by killing off humanity and probably most of the wildlife. That is true. The author of the book gets around it by giving the "thinking zombies" magical powers (they need to eat something like a handfull of food every 3 months, and they corrall as much of the mindless zombies as they can, presumably to prevent them preying on the wildlife). As *beep* as this cop out is, it is still an excuse. The film doesnt really touch on it at all other than Melanie mentioning her superhuman lungs though.




One thing that I have found to make the ending palatable is dont think of Melanie as a kid. Assume the doctor was right the whole time, she is just the fungus parasite masquerading as a child, and that her only goal is the extermination of humanity. Her killing humanity makes sense in that context. The parasite presumably doesnt know or care that it is also dooming itself.

It makes a lot of her other actions make sense too (ie the way she killed the soldiers who had been nice to her without a moments hesitation in order to save the idiot teacher who would give her an in to the humans and thier other secret base).
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The kids eat normal food

Nope. They eat flesh

Crappy, stupid movie that retreads and rehashes old themes that were more compelling and intelligently approached way before. In my humble opinion.

I'm sorry, when did the entire world stop eating meat? You saying animal meat isn't considered normal food?

Raw, freshly killed animal flesh is not normal food for humans

Humans get the majority of thier sustenance from crops.

The problem with the hungries in this film is that they need things which are freshly killed.

That means storage is out of the question, which means that every time one of them gets hungry they need to kill something, which means the majority of the animal will be wasted, which is not viable in terms of farming

Look, I have a feeling you are going to be stupid, as all you are doing is quoting and going "NUH UH!" without even considering you might be wrong. Please dont do that.


Anyway, preperation of the food is not irellavant. Ignoring that humans have evolved to eat preserved (and ideally cooked) food, preserving meat allows it to last longer and for more of the daily calories to be produce. Preservation is kind of one of the reasons why humans stopped being hunter gatherers.

The zombies have exactly as long as it takes for the meat to stop being "alive" to them. No way of telling how long that is, but likely not long. A small group of them didnt even finish eating Kieran, as an indication of the time span (the apparently very short timespan).

No, they wont get thier food from animal sources. That is not viable. Nothing on earth has the kind of reproduction rate required. As an illustration, cows have a gestation period of roughly 300 days, and a fertility cycle of roughly 20. So that means that you are looking at ~1 year per calf. For humans, the ability to preserve the meat of the cow means that it will last for potentially any amount of time. A single person eats ~100-200 lbs of meat per year, and a single cow carcass provides around 400-600lbs of meat. This is why humans can have animals farmed for meat.

Meanwhile a hungry has to kill, can only eat "fresh" meat, and gets hungry, lets say once a day (which is Melanie's rate, though the feral kids suggest they get hungry more often). So each hungry will kill a cow a day. That means you need around 1000 cows per zombie per year for the herd to not decline.

See where the problem there is? (This is a bit simplified of course, groups of zombies can eat a single cow, but the basic problem remains). Additionally there are other problems with the hungry children. For example Melanie when she kills the cat, wasnt particularily hungry (not even sure they showed her as being hungry at all), and the cat was prettymuch a holy thing to her, she had spent years in her cell dreaming of having and owning a cat. She sees it and immediatly snaps, and she has an unimaginable level of self control compared to every other zombie we see. They couldnt manage a herd of livestock.

Maggots are fresh meat. And it is shown repeatedly through the film. The maggots, the military personnel, the cat, the dog, the Kieran. And again, it is shown they need "fresh" meat in a number of ways. The maggots for example. If they could eat anything other than fresh meat, their diet could be bulked up by non meats, which would put less strain on the maggot supply (which most likely everyone was eating in the base). They didnt. Or Kieran, the supposedly starving kids who were ready to kill and eat the other two left a good half of his corpse uneaten.

No, they cant learn to easily farm.

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I have a feeling you are going to be stupid

Please dont do that.

preperation of the food is not irellavant

The zombies have exactly as long as it takes for the meat to stop being "alive" to them.

the supposedly starving kids

So each hungry will kill a cow a day

No, they cant learn to easily farm.

Jesus, not only are you an idiot but you are one of those "YOU SPEEL RONG!" types of idiots...

Its not the same food. I have already explained how. I am sorry you are too stupid to understand.

It is shown repeatedly through the film. The maggots, the military personnel, the cat, the dog, the Kieran. And again, it is shown they need "fresh" meat in a number of ways. The maggots for example. If they could eat anything other than fresh meat, their diet could be bulked up by non meats, which would put less strain on the maggot supply (which most likely everyone was eating in the base). They didnt. Or Kieran, the supposedly starving kids who were ready to kill and eat the other two left a good half of his corpse uneaten.

You completely missed the point about the kids being starving. They're that hungry that they're willing to attack another armed group when it is established they understand that guns are a threat (its why they trick the guy into taking off his pouches and rifle). They are willing to do this dangerous thing for potential food despite Kieran's corpse not even being half eaten. The point of that is showing whatever line the zombies draw on living/dead flesh is a very quick thing. Which loops back round into the whole "The kids wouldnt be able to survive" thing. A group of them cant even sate themselves on a human within the time it takes for the meat to become unpalatable.

No, there isnt enough animals. Look up how hunter gathering worked. That is with humans, and not with crazily high levels of consumption needed by the kids in the film.


No, they cant learn to overcome thier nature any more than you or I could learn to overcome our natural need to breathe or eat. That is quite literally what you are arguing. And that is not what the film is saying. The film doesnt go anywhere near that (whether they intended to or not). It is only with the context of the book that you are able to understand that. The film specifically shows that they wont survive. Or rather shows evidence that they wont and then has that ending. Thats kind of one of the problems with the book.

As a very obvious analogue (I think thats what you need), imagine if a film was 50 minutes of watching people jump off a highrise to thier deaths on the concrete below, and then it ended with a "rousing" scene of a plucky young kid deciding to jump off the building *real hard* so that he can get to China.

Is the film showing that the kid made it to China, or is the film showing a suicide? That is essentially the same problem this film's end has. It tries to play it off as a "happy" ending while having established that it is a calamity.


I have to say though, you barely seem to understand what you yourself are typing, never mind what I am. You really shouldnt try to argue.

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000000000000000000000000 I think you're pretty spot on with your analysis. It actually gave me some insight into some areas I hadn't considered.

He is quite obviously trolling you. Noone is that stupid.

Fanboy : a person who does not think while watching.

They didn't really trick him, they just ran and eat him. They acted EXACTLY like mindless zombies.

Fanboy : a person who does not think while watching.