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Liberal motto: "There's nothing wrong with the USA that --


-- being more like Europe wouldn't cure."

Now, you can mock, dismiss and deride the truth behind this sentiment, but at that end of the day it is what a majority of Liberals truly believe.

Do they want to pull up stakes and leave the USA? Of course not.

They just want it to more closely resemble Western Europe. (And Canada!)

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usa will eventually become like western europe whether u like it or not. 4 years from now, america will b begging liberals to retake power & no whiteys will ever stop it..

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& no whiteys will ever stop it.

Incredible.

But the sad truth is, you speak for many, many, many people.

Your worldview... your preference for the social democracies of Europe over American capitalism... your virtue-signaling that suggests People of Color are more virtuous and deserving of respect than Caucasians (instead of believing that Blacks, Hispanics, Whites and Asians are equally great, equally good, and equally disgusting in equal measure)... yes you speak for many, many, many people, and a majority of Millennials.

And you are probably right about 2020.

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no, this idiot is not right about 2020.

He's not even right about punctuation, spelling, or grammar, but you're going to credit the intellect?

No matter how badly some people want it, ebonics is NOT a valid form of true communication. Unless you are squatting in a mud hut telling the world "We Waz Kangz!"

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I'm not giving credit to his intellect, I'm giving credit to demographics. Despite the results of this month's election, America is now a center-left country, and most of its citizens are very "European" in their thinking ("Take care of me! Restrict my liberties if you have to, but take care of me!!!")

Young people -- who are almost exclusively left wing -- are going to come out in force in the next presidential election, and the results will not be pretty.

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could u actually name liberties the europeans voluntarily gave up in return for the access to the social programs? they have freedom of speech, religion, movement, rights for due process, free markets etc. they can even buy a gun if they pass a background check. u obviously never been to europe, never bothered to research how their benefits r funded or just simply don't believe taxes should b reinvested back to the society rather than to the corporate pockets. u actually also might b just jealous that they r so further ahead in equality than this country that it's embarrassing. unlike here, they practice what they preach and eventually, their way will take over. 2020 will b the logical timing cuz just like their historical experience has shown, socialism finds its way to the spotlight right after oligarchy and/or fascism, which is what this country will suffer from for the nxt 4 years.

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Do they really enjoy the same unfettered freedom of speech that Americans do?

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There speech is limited, with actual prosecution for hate speech being one example, and the fact that definition is totally subjective and up to the powers that be at the time.

They have mostly, utterly given up their right to self defense.

They have given up well over half of their incomes.

Much of Europe requires specific paper work to move within a nation and most of Europe requires it to move from nation to nation and, remember, going from country to country there is not much different in distance (and often even culture) than we in the US going from state to state.

"Due Process" is not a thing in most of Europe. In some, such as Italy, no US Citizen would even recognize the process.

Nobody who has spent time in most of Europe would refer to most of their economies as "free market". I have been there. Based on your comments either you have not...or you are perfectly willing to lie.

Culturally and technologically, for the average European, it feels to us from the states like stepping back in time a few decades. It endlessly amuses me how the elft cries about an income disparity here and yet the wealthy across the pond look like they live in a later century than the masses.

The rest of your screed is just the ignorant partisan rantings of a biased extremist.

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There speech is limited, with actual prosecution for hate speech being one example

lol being the only example you mean. And hate speech is not free speech. Free speech entails responsibilities. And you probably mean Germany, not "Europe" (it's not just one country, you know?) and the reason they have these laws is that, unlike you Yanks, they know what speech like Trump's lead to. They've been there.

They have mostly, utterly given up their right to self defense.

LMAO because we don't wave guns around hoping that it will stop bullets fired at us? Considering the number of gun-related deaths in your country as opposed to those in Europe every year, I'd say you are the ones who have the problem.

They have given up well over half of their incomes.

Did you get that info on FAUX News?

Much of Europe requires specific paper work to move within a natio

Nope

and most of Europe requires it to move from nation to nation

And nope again.

"Due Process" is not a thing in most of Europe. In some, such as Italy, no US Citizen would even recognize the process.

LMAO what? Oh right, we summarily execute people who are "represented" by second rate lawyers who fall asleep during the trial. Oh no, wait, that's in your country, sorry.

Nobody who has spent time in most of Europe would refer to most of their economies as "free market". I have been there. Based on your comments either you have not...or you are perfectly willing to lie.

You've been there? Yeah you sound like you have. Or maybe you just watch a fauxcumentary on Fox News and it's basically the same, right? Did you send your Mom a postcard when you "were there"?

Culturally and technologically, for the average European, it feels to us from the states like stepping back in time a few decades.

Now I know when you were there. Was in D Day? We really thank you guys for all the work you did then by the way. You should check it out again. A few things have changed.

The rest of your screed is just the ignorant partisan rantings of a biased extremist.

Ran out of fake come-backs?

For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco

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just out of curiosity, how a retard like u recognizes what ebonics is?

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I use a translator to parse ghetto gibberish offered up by ratchets like yourself. Er, I mean, "urself"

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I live in Europe and I can tell you that it's about as liberal friendly as a klan meeting.
If they want America t be more like Europe then they should be happy Trump won.

The right is winning everywhere around the world. I'd be making weak films with terrible world views if I my world view was dying out too

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Uhhhhm, isn't that what all of you "darkies" said about this election!?! No way Trump could win! Typical liberals wrong as usual. Europeans are already waking up just look at brexit. Democrats have lost over a thousand seats since Obama took office that's because most Americans love their freedom they don't need some liberal moron that couldn't Run a Dunkin Donuts trying to run the country. All you need to do is simply look at any democrat-run City or state and you will see they're going bankrupt crime is out of control murders are Justin hourly occurrence. You can't govern yourself you can't govern a small City this man had eight years he had the house the Senate the presidency and
all he got past was Obamacare which
almost every single person hates
except the lazy ass that wants to sit at home and have taxpayers pay for
them and their 45 kids with 44
different dads. And with most people
the race *beep* isn't going to work
anymore people we're able to see it
didn't matter if you were racist or
not if you disagreed with a half-black
president you are a racist didn't
matter what it was about. If you were told President Obama's favorite color is purple and you said my favorite color is green you were then berated and called a racist for not agreeing with the first half black president. Feminism is failing identity politics is failing everything the Democrats have used for decades is feeling and is going to be gone very soon people get their news from a myriad of sources not just from Liars like Brian Williams or Anderson Cooper. I'm four years the country will more than likely be thriving and of course the Democrats will take all the credit for anything good anything bad will be Bush's fault somehow Trump will see no accolades from Liberal Democrats. They're so out of touch they reelected Nancy Pelosi once again a Haggard withered you can barely understand what she says moron. Nice try though!

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fyi, i'm white. fyi, trump won the electoral college, not the popular vote so majority of americans didn't actually vote for him. fyi, brexit pertains to just 1 country and was a result of a low turnout and a campaign based on xenophobia and hollow promises rather than facts [just like here]. as far as obama goes, he might not b talented enuff to run dunkin donuts but he's certainly talented and qualified enuff to run the country. unlike the orange monkey who needed to screw his investors multiple times in order to get out of multiple bankruptcies. fyi, i live in the democratic state and it's the 5th strongest economy in the world. fyi, i'm on obamacare and it's the best thing since the sliced bread. fyi, the taxpayers will cough up the money for all the unpaid medical bills from the uninsured once obamacare is repealed. fyi, the whiteys r a dying breed & will become minority, esp ur kind, & finally will get to suffer the consequences of taking advantages of anyone they could in order to get ahead..

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The majority of Americans that could vote didn't vote for ANYONE, myjizz.

Do you understand mth? Or "maff" as you wig-wogs like to call it?

And if you are referring to California, it is no longer the 5th strongest economy in the world, thanks to Democraptastic leadership. The state is 220 billion in the red right now.

You may want to stop getting your information from Occupy Democrats.

As far as whitey dying off, the POC that are rising in number cannot possibly pay for the welfare infrastructure that it takes to support all the gibsmedat freeloaders like yourself. If it comes to a race war that the BLM revolutionaries and the Occupy morns seem to want, get ready to see your numbers get greatly eliminated quickly. I hope I have the chance to encounter you on the street when the *beep* hits the fan.

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Yeah im so tired of progressives in this country dissing on american values calling us all prude . Europe has turned into a sess pool because of their blase attitude about everything its why let in all those dog refugees who squatted and *beep* in the streets .

You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.

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Yeah im so tired of progressives in this country dissing on american values calling us all prude . Europe has turned into a sess pool because of their blase attitude about everything its why let in all those dog refugees who squatted and *beep* in the streets .


You know it was dumb of Hillary to call people deplorables but you nailed it in a single short post. They let in the refugees because their country was consumed with war and terrorism was on the rise. What happened to the right's balls? Trump whines about wanting a safe special place and how Alec Baldwin is so mean to him. A bunch of others fear the refugees, we're the United States, if you're a victim of terrorism we can help, if you're a terrorist, well we aren't that hard to find. France got attacked for taking in refugee, their response wasn't to hide in the corner with a rifle pissing their pants saying we can't take them. It was to take in more because apparently they're more badass than the fragile victimized American right. You don't know American values, but I'll clue you in a little: American values don't involve being a racist pussy.

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France got attacked for taking in refugee, their response wasn't to hide in the corner with a rifle pissing their pants saying we can't take them. It was to take in more because apparently they're more badass than the fragile victimized American right. You don't know American values, but I'll clue you in a little: American values don't involve being a racist pussy.


It'S because have taken in so many refugee's that their country is gone to *beep* those refugee's are savage and animals .It looks like from the way things are going we will once again have to bail them out of trouble because their a bunch of pussies who let in a bunch of savages who just want hand outs and don't care to assimilate .This is what hillary clinton wanted to do ship these people over and flood this country so she could secure the democratic vote for the next 8 years .Its obvious you don't have a ounce a brain in that soft head of yours . Hillary clinton is a egomaniac a sociopath who was willing to do and say whatever to idiots like you get into office .Well those so called deplorables told her to shove it why ? not because their dumb or racist its because they know a when their being hustled and told a lie .I'd like to think that your young and dumb and if not i hope you never breed for the sake of the human race .

You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.

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It'S because have taken in so many refugee's that their country is gone to *beep* those refugee's are savage and animals .It looks like from the way things are going we will once again have to bail them out of trouble because their a bunch of pussies who let in a bunch of savages who just want hand outs and don't care to assimilate .This is what hillary clinton wanted to do ship these people over and flood this country so she could secure the democratic vote for the next 8 years .Its obvious you don't have a ounce a brain in that soft head of yours . Hillary clinton is a egomaniac a sociopath who was willing to do and say whatever to idiots like you get into office .Well those so called deplorables told her to shove it why ? not because their dumb or racist its because they know a when their being hustled and told a lie .I'd like to think that your young and dumb and if not i hope you never breed for the sake of the human race .


Refugees don't live in the best conditions, it comes from being forced out or fleeing your home. I don't understand calling them pussies for taking refugees, it takes balls to let in strangers who people threatening to blow you up are telling you not to take. France did it anyway, not taking them because you're afraid of terrorism or whatever is the mark of someone who checked their balls at the door. Not all Trump supporters are deplorable, not even the majority, but someone who calls a human being a dog is certainly one, plus the fear of them makes you a bit of a puss.

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Those people you refer to were forced out by Obama and Hillary's policies. Interesting fact.

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On the deplorable thing. She didn't say all she said half. and didn't Trump and his family and other republicans also call the trump supporters deplorable themselves when describing how they felt about the KKK? That they were horrible folks, yet obviously Trump supporters as they were shouting "hail trump" (heil Trump?) at their rallies. These were the folks she was talking about as deplorable.

and I know it is pointless to expect any kind of rationale, logical, truthful debate with the right. but still I try

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Universal healthcare, no GMOs or HFCS, guaranteed maternity leave, paid vacations.

Yeah, we could do worse than drifting toward Western Europe. The alternative being Eastern Europe (Russia) or Asia (China).

Yeah, Western Europe isn't that bad a direction to go.

Last I checked they were also Capitalistic societies.

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Well, that was the point of my original post, that many, many, many people think the way you do.

In fact, you speak for just about every progressive I know, and almost all Millennials.

And if such thinking persists, and there's no reason to believe it won't, then America will become indistinguishable from the social democracies of Western Europe in the next 15 to 20 years.

That'll be a sad day for me. But I'll be close to death by then, so it won't matter as much.

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Out of curiosity, what do you find wrong with what mlaiuppa said?

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I don't really understand your comment. If the social democracies of Western Europe do some things better than the US, what's the advantage of rejecting those things, just for the sake of standing out or not becoming "indistinguishable"? Is being different for the sake of being different really much of a goal?


"You can't handle the post-truth!"

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Universal healthcare, no GMOs or HFCS, guaranteed maternity leave, paid vacations.

...90% Caucasian...

Yeah, Western Europe isn't that bad a direction to go.

Racist!

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To put it another way, most of the things which are wrong about the US are things in which they differ from Western Europe or Canada. And most of the things which are good about the US are things they share with Western Europe and Canada.


"You can't handle the post-truth!"

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