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Woody Allen lost any sense of storytelling


Is it laziness or sheer incompetence? I'm inclined to believe it's the former, given that not so long ago he made an actually great film - Midnight in Paris -, and a couple decent entries since. But with each new movie Woody seems to become lazier as a storyteller, and nowhere is it as evident as in last year's Irrational Man and his latest Café Society.

These movies are some kind of weird anti-cinema: dialogue doesn't seem even remotely realistic, there's no weight or poignancy to the drama, even the most basic form of narrative structure is completely disregarded, he narration either pointlessly describes what we're seeing on screen or describes what we SHOULD be seeing on screen, characters change attitude from scene to scene with no sense of development...It feels Like he just wrote these scripts in a couple of days, turned on the camera and kept rolling.

It's frustrating to see the guy who made Annie Hall and Manhattan having trouble to tell even a basic straightforward story like this. There's some enjoyment to be had if you, like me, are into classic Hollywood, it's interesting to see what a Woody Allen gangster movie would feel like, cinematography by Vittorio Storaro looks gorgeous and there is a greater care to composition here than in his last few movies, and there are some genuinely funny characters and sketches. So I liked it a lot better than the terrible Irrational Man. Still, that doesn't change the fact Café Society is much, much bellow Allen's capabilities.

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Blue Jasmine was exceptional,. There is no evident trend.

The fact is that the collaborative artist doesn't always know exactly what is going to work. Woody is a prolidfic filmmaker, so he has plenty of lukewarm films as well as some outright disasters. But he also has plenty of successes, even later in his career.

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What Shellemm said - "The fact is that the collaborative artist doesn't always know exactly what is going to work"



PS When I'm 81, I sincerely hope to the lord almighty I'm able to cross the street on my own and not crap myself.

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Halfway through the movie I started wondering just what the point was. Of course, movies don't need to make a point to be entertaining or informative, but this film wouldn't even qualify as just a vanity project. It ultimately said nothing about nothing.

Revenge is a dish that best goes stale.

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Completely disagree. The movie held me gripped all the way through. Absolutely loved it, and the storytelling part was one of the strongest points of this film.

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I loved this film.

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The narrative on this film is really annoying.. I don't understand why he's there.

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No way, this and irrational man were both great. Cafe had a great sense of storytelling and irrational man was very far from terrible. I liked both irrational man and cafe society better than blue jasmine. Jasmine was great also tho.

Magic in the moonlight is the real stinker compared to these last 3.

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The OP is spot-on. Saw cafe society last night and the movie seems to consist of a mere collection of beautiful shots and Jesse Eisenberg doing his best to impersonate the director as best as he could. Furthermore the casting and chemistry between the leads really made me wonder..

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Woody himself admits to his own laziness these days, how he puts actors through one take, prints it, moves on. If one has been keeping up with Woody for the past 20 years i think it's reasonable to expect an amusing aside or mediocre-wry, blasé filmic approach. Occasionally the material is strong enough to shine on its own, but that aspect is almost incidental to Woody's direction, which doesn't much deviate from a simplistic, easy approach. The quality of these latter-day films is based on the strength of Woody's script, and little else.

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