couldnt help it, was loling so much
but also good showcase how retarded religion can get, and still people let themselves be governed by it, cosmic gagreel
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Here's my opinion. It's a movie based on a folktale. I wouldn't regard it as a proper showcase for religion at all... whether the religion is Christianity or Satanism. In my experience it's certain people who are the "retarded" ones, both the extreme fanatics and the all-out haters. Those who use religion for good and do their best to live well with others shouldn't feel bad about what governs them.
"Nobody knows anything." - William Goldman
Religion stopped being about gods and devils or doing good a long LONG time ago. Religion is used to control, gain power, wealth, territory.
And its the "retarded" ones like shown in this movie that make it so easy to use. And its always applied same way, through fear. Its a disease, and those that follow it and completly blind to what it actually stands for, yea they should feel bad.
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I completely disagree with you. Yes, rotten things have been done in the name of religion, but that was because of self-centered people. That doesn't make everyone in the religion self-centered. Appalling things ("control, gain power, wealth, territory") have been done in the name business, friendship, politics, etc. Should people feel bad for still engaging in and following these practices? Of course not. In my opinion, that would be completely illogical... same for those involved in religion. And when is the last time you spoke with an ordinary religious person? When they talk to me, they talk about God, the devil, sin, etc. all the time.
So again, in my opinion, no, they should not feel bad just because you or I might have issues with what some have selfishly done in the name of a belief system. It’s not your call, and it’s not mine. Also, I can’t name one institution in the world that someone has not tried to exploit for personal gain. Can you?
"Nobody knows anything." - William Goldman
The difference between religion and all others you named is that religion preaches peace and love and equality and all those virtues while in fact they do quite the opposite in enforcing their will to gain that power wealth etc
Of all the forms you named in gaining those things, its the most ugly one. First putting the fear in weak minded people, then using those people to enrich their institution while wading through dead bodies in getting it.
This movie perfect example for what im saying. Put fear in simple minded folks and look how it gets out off hand and its those kind of people that make a religion actually strong, theres so many. And then theres the few who prey on it and use and abuse it to better themselves, which ultimately is the one and only goal of religion.
or do you really think the head of any church gives a rats ass about Joe with the hat in the street, no they dont, they care about their big houses and fine clothes and all they do is tell you how to live and get payed for telling. And if not, well, they chop your head off, or used to burn you. If you cant be converted then you are useless and might even be dangerous for possible ideas. Religion is slavery of the mind.
Some divinity.
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I personally don’t believe we should give anyone a pass. Just because a business man isn’t preaching peace and love, doesn’t mean we look the other way as he hurts and steps on people while climbing to power and wealth. Politicians preach “power to the people” and “representation” until they get a taste of wealth and power. After that it becomes a game of deception, manipulation, and compromise in order to keep the power. It’s all ugly to me. There are no degrees of ugly. There are no differences. An institution is an institution.
Also, not that it’s right, but all institutions use fear. Republicans teach their followers to fear Democrats, and Democrats teach their followers to fear Republicans. Tell me there aren’t any weak minded people in these two parties. Lots of dead bodies in there too.
Of course there are unstable people out there who take religion, politics, and business success to the extremes. Unlike you though, I don’t believe these people are in the majority. They just get more press. I am not a religious authority by any means, but I consider myself well-read and always learning. With that said, I have never read where the leaders of major religions are specifically instructed to abuse their power to better themselves. To make that kind of claim I would have to ask you for specific and documented proof.
Of course I believe there are church leaders out there of multiple faiths who genuinely care about people. In fact, I know there are. I’ve met them and seen them in action. I have volunteered in homeless shelters and relief centers alongside religious leaders who will never be on television or live in big houses. I volunteer some of my time, but these people do it 24/7. Their belief system, their faith or religion is what drives that. I wouldn’t call that “slavery of the mind.” Neither would those people getting hot meals or beds for the night. No, true religious people are not divine, but some of their actions have made me go, “wow!”
Yes, they do share their beliefs with us while we’re there, but I’ve never felt like someone was telling me how to live… just another way to live. I think this is true religion. People involved in that kind of religion don’t have to feel bad about their beliefs. These other so called religious leaders are the phony ones, and they just represent themselves under the guise of religion.
Anyway, I’ll look for your response, but I’m probably finished writing. Thanks for the conversation.
"Nobody knows anything." - William Goldman
Well, not gonna say religion did nothing good. Yes there are institutions that help out where help is needed. Yes religion thought morals etc. Doesnt change the fact that all that is a facade, it puts up a nice mask of what its really doing.
Control over people is power, and all power corrupts, like i said earlier, it stopped being about god along time ago.
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Black Phillip was comedy gold
shareI laughed heartily when the girls were flying/levitating at the end of the movie. It was ridiculous.
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