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Great movie. Lots of trolls and racists giving it thumbs down.


From an objective perspective this was a great movie. It's no surprise to anyone that IMDB forums contains a large amount salty and hateful people who will rate badly every movie that deals with topics they don't like to discuss. Racists and white supremacists are some of the most easily triggered crybullies in existence.

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it beez gud homie?

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What discussion? Black supporters "loved it and don't care wat no one say cuz it da' troof." Should we build a discussion on that?


you don't know the race of the people who like the film. you're just assuming.

no one speaks that way, except for white people like you.

mature people discuss films based on merits, not racism.



"Please disabuse yourself of the notion that my purpose on earth is to tuck ignorance in at night."

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Remember when you claimed this garbage flick was going to break records???? Yeah, that record was broken in early 1900's. Typical Democratic Party zombie, thinking you're progressive when you're regressive.

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I don't give it thumbs down, but it definitely isn't a great movie either. There are so many better movies than this with this theme.

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Remember when you claimed this garbage flick was going to break records????


not really. refresh my memory.

"Please disabuse yourself of the notion that my purpose on earth is to tuck ignorance in at night."

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Typical response of a Trumpster

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This movie grossly misrepresents history, and is in fact racist against white people.

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This movie grossly misrepresents history, and is in fact racist against white people.


oh, just like the original birth of a nation?

fancy that.

"Please disabuse yourself of the notion that my purpose on earth is to tuck ignorance in at night."

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[In my best Andy Rooney voice]
"Didja ever notice" that for well over 100 years after slavery ended (and mostly even now) we still had a million different "explanations" for why almost nothing was/is ever actually "intentional" racism (even when there were/are bleeding bodies lying dead in the streets)? But now suddenly, out of seemingly nowhere, everybody and their brother can identify even the most microscopic examples of so-called black racism...apparently even with their backs turned and while wearing blindfolds and earplugs? LOL






No man lies so boldly as the man who is indignant.

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[In my best Andy Rooney voice]


LOL

*stealing*

"Please disabuse yourself of the notion that my purpose on earth is to tuck ignorance in at night."

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oh, just like the original birth of a nation?

fancy that.


Yes, we should meet a film OVER A CENTURY OLD and a product of its time with an equally ignorant, hateful film...a century later. That'll show 'em.

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Yes, we should meet a film OVER A CENTURY OLD and a product of its time with an equally ignorant, hateful film...a century later. That'll show 'em.


apparently, it did just that.

it showed em.



"Please disabuse yourself of the notion that my purpose on earth is to tuck ignorance in at night."

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Of course they are. You don't actually think brainless white supremacist clowns are actually going to see it do you?

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I'm ignoring the fools aka trolls.

It's a very good film, but not without flaws. People should see it. Especially black people. It's cathartic.

It's not a history lesson, much like Braveheart. But it captures that essence of Nat Turner who lived on in legend and myth. I see it as Parker's re-imagining of the legend of Nat Turner. We have had to endure an endless stream of slave narratives showing lynching, whippings and all sorts of brutality at the hands of white people. This film offers a sense of vindication from that.

The truth is not that simplistic. It never is. There were slave uprisings in Brazil. Toussaint L'Overture waged a successful revolution, which btw caused Napoleon to sell the Louisiana Territory. A fact that gets white-washed in the raising up of Napoleon as a great historic warrior. But the truth is, fighting with L'Overture in Haiti, cost him time and money and in the end he had to capture L'Overture in a most dishonorable way. He invited him to a meeting guaranteeing safe conduct and then at Napoleon's orders captured him and threw him in prison.

So now you can see why it's so hard to get the story of Toussaint told since it shades the legend of Napoleon as a masterful general.

We get our noses rubbed with this idea that the slaves did nothing. But I think the truth is a lot more complex than that simplistic idea. Life evolves in ordinary terms. And absent video documentation, perhaps this film will allow us to read between the lines and discover new narratives from our past.

The pbs show, Finding Your Roots has exposed lots of stories that are filled with heroic tales. Perhaps, America's historians have failed us.

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Exactly! Racists are just desperate to pretend certain segments of history don't exist.

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I had to go back a few pages on the board to find a post that says this movie is good. I just watched it and I really liked, I found it engaging, well acted, well shot. I gather, from what I read here, that it's not an accurate historical account of these events, however most historical movies aren't, and I accept that, I judge this as a movie, and I enjoyed it, apart from a few things. ' I'll give an 8.
Everyone on the board can insult me now. lol

PS I'm white, european, and knew nothing about Turner. I have no historical "baggage" on the subject. I simply liked the film

"Please, if you are trying to convert me, this isn't a good time"

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