Loved the series right up until the last episode - a couple of things really bothered me
1) the hole in the bone - the victim had clearly been tortured - yet no one ever mentions this? The disabled guy is having sex with a man who shortly before had had a nail driven through his hand? And it's never mentioned? We know that this must have happened within a two day window of death as the drug addict mate said he saw him two days before he disappeared - so he has a nail smashed into his hand and doesn't go to hospital? Disabled guy forgets to mention either him or his wife doing this?
2) how easily they believed the guys story about his wife - it was simply said 'I'm sure we will find evidence of post natal depression' (yet no confirmation of this) - the wife's bruised eye. The previous example of the husband almost beating a man to death. The is not a single shred of evidence that the wife did this other than the statement of the husband. I read the whole thing as the story was made up and that the wife had been bullied by the father and son to the point that she no longer knew what was true and false when combined with her dementia. Was the ending meant to be ambiguous? Or are we meant to accept it was the wife?
1) the hole in the bone - the victim had clearly been tortured - yet no one ever mentions this?
They did explain that. This was inflicted as a (one time) punishment for failing to repay the loan shark.
The disabled guy is having sex with a man who shortly before had had a nail driven through his hand?
Eric wasn't disabled at the time of his male sexual encounters. He explained in the tell all that 2 weeks after the second murder years later, he tried to kill himself by wrecking his car. It didn't work, he ended up paralyzed.
Also, the hand injury (nail through the finger) wasn't that recent. He borrowed the money in November and they met on New Year's eve. The hand may still have been bandaged, hard to tell from the dim and hazy flash backs.
how easily they believed the guys story about his wife
He had little reason to lie - he was going to be locked up for accessory anyway.
Postpartum depression back in the day wasn't as well understood/documented but they tried to reconstruct her mental state during the interviews. They kept shoving that photo under her nose until she had the flash backs seeing her husband with Jimmy. Considering that each murder occurred shortly after her giving birth, and her admission that she did stalk him - the entire interview with her having the flash backs of seeing her husband with Jimmy - seems pretty obvious she did it.
the wife's bruised eye. The previous example of the husband almost beating a man to death.
We can't be sure about the bruised eye, as to what happened. It was never revealed - maybe she bumped her head, maybe the oldest son did something.
And the confrontation he had with another man was said to have been sparked by a quarrel over sports teams. He didn't "nearly beat anyone to death" - if he had, they wold have locked him up for it. He got drunk and threw a punch at someone at a pub. A far cry from killing someone.
The is not a single shred of evidence that the wife did this other than the statement of the husband.
You might want to rewatch this. Looks like you missed a bunch.
They did explain that. This was inflicted as a (one time) punishment for failing to repay the loan shark
Yet the disabled guy never mentions it? Murder victim suffers a serious injury and he neglects to mention this? He is up for murder and he never points out that the victim had been tortured by someone else shortly before? I got the fact that Trevor Eve's character inflicted the wound through lack of payment, that's not the issue - the issue is that no one else involved ever mentions it.
Eric wasn't disabled at the time of his male sexual encounters.
I know - was merely using the description in order to specify who I was referring to.
Also, the hand injury (nail through the finger) wasn't that recent.
It wasn't a nail through the finger - that would be a hole in a phalange - this was stated as a hole through the scaphoid, a carpal bone - the bones where the hand meet the wrist. I've broken the scaphoid in both my hands - as they are floating bones they are incredibly hard to fix, my left hand had a cast on it for four months and I was told to expect surgery, this was for a fracture, in the program it had a nail driven through it and was in two completely seperate parts - when I did it my hand swelled up like a balloon for a good couple of days and I couldn't do simple things like doing up zips for a couple of weeks - the injury in this potentially split the bone in two, it's an injury that you are going to notice. Also there was not a large time frame involved - it is at most two days. Jimmy had the fifty pounds that he borrowed in order to pay back the loan sharks, which he has earned through legitimate work. This money is then stolen from him by the neo nazis girlfriend, Lizzie. The Nazis friend who is an ex drug addict (think his name was Alan Mackay) who they interview confirms that this was done a couple of days before the murder (he states that when the nazi robs the victim he went on a drugs bender and when he came back a couple of days later the victim had disappeared) - the victim only couldn't pay back the money because it was stolen, by the Nazi who did it a couple of days before he died - which means the nail through the hand HAD to have occurred during those two days - because it was the only time he was without the money. Which means that within 48 hours of having a nail driven through the back of his hand he is up and about and having sex with the disabled guy. And the disabled guy makes no mention of this.
He had little reason to lie - he was going to be locked up for accessory anyway.
He had every reason to lie - he was going to be locked up for murder - as an accessory his sentence could be as little as three years, meaning out in eighteen months - he would be looking at life for double murder. I would say that's a pretty good reason.
Considering that each murder occurred shortly after her giving birth
I would say that there is a gigantic leap from 'suffering from post natal depression' to 'double murder'.
the entire interview with her having the flash backs of seeing her husband with Jimmy
Assuming of course the flash backs were real - there were also certainly no flashbacks of her murdering Jimmy. This is a woman whose so deranged that she informs the police to the whereabouts of a body she murdered.
We can't be sure about the bruised eye, as to what happened. It was never revealed - maybe she bumped her head, maybe the oldest son did something.
Fair point - although it is very heavily implied with the level of fear from the wife and the fact it is shown directly before the violent outburst from Eric when he sweeps his dinner of the table.
And the confrontation he had with another man was said to have been sparked by a quarrel over sports teams. He didn't "nearly beat anyone to death"
that was Erics explanation - which if he was the murderer is hardly reliable. They interviewed the victim of the beatings sister - she stated that the victim had told her 'he was convinced, that if that police officer hadn't been passing then Eric would have beaten him to death' - which sounds pretty serious to me. That's more than a punch up over sports - and don't forget even Eric admits that this wasn't the reason for the fight in the end - he admits he was he was having sex with the guy and that 'he liked it a bit rough' and the police simply accept this without question! Apparently the passing policeman is incapable of discerning the difference between a punch up and rough gay sex!
if he had, they wold have locked him up for it.
Again, this is explained - the sister states that the victim refused to turn up to court to testify because of the stigma of being gay - as the attack occurred outside a gay pub it would be clear it was a homophobic attack therefore outing the victim. He was charged with the assault - which is how they track down the sister - but not convicted as the victim would not testify.
You might want to rewatch this. Looks like you missed a bunch.
Such as? What did I miss with regards to evidence of the wife being guilty - other than the testimony of the husband?
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