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OT (I think): What WW2 true story do you want Hollywood to make?


The Battle of Castle Itter is tailor-made for a feel-good crowd-pleaser

The exploits of Nazi commando Otto Skorzeny and his postwar criminal organizations

English archaeologist John Pendlebury helping the Cretans fight the Nazis' airborne invasion.

The liberation of Ethiopia.



What's missing in movies is same as in society: a good sense of work ethic and living up to ideals.

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There are much more important stories to tell…

The uprising in Treblinka for example.

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Agreed OP. I read the book "The Last Battle" and thought it was an alright (but not great) book. However, the story of what happened is very interesting and would make for a great movie.

It is the last days of World War II and the Nazis are holding foreign dignitaries (mostly French) prisoner / hostage. They are debating whether to slaughter the VIPs or not, because the Nazis are at the end of their rope. Or should they spare the VIPs and hope to use them as a bargaining tool at the end of the war? Then there is small group of U.S. soldiers / tankers on the way to rescue the dignitaries before they are slaughtered. Then you have Germany army soldiers (mostly Austrians) who have decided to rebel against the Nazis and fight alongside the GIs. The German Army turncoats and freed french dignitaries fight alongside the GIs against a unit of crack Nazi SS soldiers who are trying to retake the castle / kill the prisoners. The prisoners, some who were ultra Conservative and Catholic while others were Jewish and Socialist put aside their differences / politics to fight against their common enemy - the Nazis. This has the making of a great movie!

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Was reading the wiki page for Operation Anthropoid and stumbled upon that piece of information about an operation that i would like to see depicted on screen, Operation Blowup:

General-Kommissar of Belarus Wilhelm Kube was killed in Operation Blowup by Soviet partisan Yelena Mazanik, a Belarusian woman who had managed to find employment in his household in order to assassinate him


Don't know anything more about it, but i'm intrigued... Not the best name for a secret operation i would hazard tough, but definitively an interesting premise.



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Have you ever read the book "A Higher Call"?

In a nutshell it is about a green American crew flying a B-17 bomber over Germany. They are shot to hell over the target and are forced to fall out of formation and make their way home - alone. They are limping their way back to England, and are few blows away from falling out of the sky. They have severally badly wounded crew. The German fighter planes take potshots at them for a while. But the B-17 gunners put up a good fight, but are no match for the swarms of ME109s. The crew believes they are going to go down, as does the German fighters who after a time stop firing on the mortally wounded B-17. They turn back for base. However, one noble German ME 109 Ace gets on their tale. The B-17 pilot knows he is doomed. However, the German ace stays with him and does not fire a shot. The American pilot thinks he is a mouse being towed with by the cat before finally being blown away. This enrages the American pilot to no end, who just wishes the German would end it already. The German pilot through hand motions tries to signal the Americans to bail out or try to land somewhere. However, they are not understanding his motions. So The German ace flies escort for the mortally wounded B-17 over several German flak anti-aircraft defense rings. The German AA gunners not wanting to shoot down their own comrade do not open fire on the crippled B-17. The German pilot escorts the B-17 to a little ways out into the English Channel, the pilot salutes, and turns around for home.

That is a small part of the story, but the book also covers the B-17 pilots life and history, as well as the German Ace's life and history - and how he was a vaunted ace who flew in North Africa along with the famous ace Hans Marseille. The book goes on to tell how the American pilot continued on to complete all of his missions. The book talks about how the German ace continued to fly against the allies, and how he became a ME262 jet pilot and took part in the fighter pilot mutiny at the end of the war that tried to force Hermann Goering to resign. The book describes how the two men reconnected later in life. Very very interesting and would make a great Hollywood movie.

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I would also love to see more movies taking place on the Russian front (from either perspective).

Maybe a movie about Fortress Breslau, the German city that held out against the Soviets in 1944/1945. Very interesting history.

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Apparently Tom Stoppard bought the rights to the book “A higher call” and is planning on turning it into a movie.

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Awesome! I hope it gets turned in to a good movie!

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An interesting note:
That German pilot Franz Stigler was a contemporary of Marseille but he fell in with bad company-his 'schwarm'(flight of 4) was populated by some fighter pilots of questionable honesty:

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=11588&page=2


Only the serious need of pilots in the Western Desert prevented him from getting court martialed;





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German pilot with 352 victories; most on the Russian front.

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Good question.

Off the top of my head, I'd name these two:

The St Nazaire Raid

The SS Ohio convoy to Malta

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Battle of Kohima
"When you go home, tell them of us and say,
For your tomorrow, we gave our today"

The forgotten 14th need a little rememberance

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Excellent suggestions so far.

How about Operation Humming Bird? The pre-war arrest of Ernst Roehm and his SA. A docu. was done for British tv many years ago and it was a cracking true tale. Would transfer to the wide screen for sure.

The best WW2 I have seen, ever, was "Downfall",faultless, superb, riveting.

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Great call re Kohima.

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- The Chindit ops in Burma.

- Kursk

Anything about the Canadian contribution in the war. We always get overlooked. "The Longest Day"? Canada had the third largest invasion force at Normandy - virtually no mention. Of course we suck at telling our own story...Not to knock the tremendous effort/contribution of the USA in the war, but, they make most of the movies and, as a result, the focus is usually on them.

Some ideas for Canadian stories (perhaps without international appeal...):

- the 3 Canadian battalions' valiant effort at Hong Kong (and the disgraced UK commanders' attempt to shift blame from himself to the "colonials".

- the Dieppe Raid summer 42. 5.000 Canadians from 2 Inf Div went in and only 1,500 came back. The CBC made a 2 part made for TV movie and it sucked. No matter how you film20extras hitting a beach on Lake Ontario...it's just 20extras hitting a beach on a lake - cheesy.

- Battle of Ortona in Italy Christmas 1943 where a Cdn Inf Bde fought house to house to seize the town from a German Falshirmjager Div. The fighting was brutal and the Cdn AAR for urban fighting became SOP for decades to come (using explosive charges to "mousehole" between buildings etc.

- the story of the First Canadian Parachute Battalion and their famous football star CO (killed on the Rhine jump in 45). Members of 1 Can Para claim to be the first allies on the ground during Overlord (even before Howard's gliders at Pegasus Bridge). Naturally, historians refuse to acknowledge this...

- the Scheldt campaign to open the waterway to Antwerp. Critical as, without Antwerp, all supplies had to come overland from French coast. No one ever talks about this highly critical op as it was mostly conducted by the Cdn Army until the very end when UK had to assist in seizing Walchern Island. Cdn casualties were brutal - particularly in the many assaults made on the causeway connecting the island. The Germans had the whole raised road swept with MGs and 20mm cannons.

- Normandy from D Day where the Cdns were the only allies to achieve all first day objectives and penetrated furthest inland of any Allied force from the beaches; through to the execution of Cdn POWs at Abbeye Ardenne by 12 SS Panzer (more killed than at Malmedy,I believe); to the Cdn innovations such as artificial moonlight, using bombers in close support of armour and infantry (mixed results) and the invention of first true APC from converted SPG Priests; to the race toclosethe Falaise Gap.

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The story of how good life was in the 30s in Germany, and how they had the highest living standards in the world.

I'd also like a movie that points out all the lies surrounding the holocaust, like claims about turning Jews into soap, Jewish skin into lampshades, chambers with electric floors to zap Jews to death, giant death chamber steam rooms, and on, and on.

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I think somebody turned your brain into soap. Then again, a bar of soap probably works harder than whatever is in your skull.

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For great WW2 movie material, all you need to do is read about guys like Witold Pilecki or Kazimierz Piechowski. There's 2 amazing movie ideas right there. Also, seeing a proper film about the Aug 1, 1944 Warsaw Uprising would be amazing as well.

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Watch American Radical: The Trials of Norman Finkelstein http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1475191/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

It is a documentary about the work of Jewish academic Norman Finkelstein, who propounds similar things as you. Very good documentary worth the watch.

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