Hillary cried over Trayvon Martin...


...and then was dismissive and indignant when talking about Benghazi.

She behaved like this because she didn't need to pander to the Benghazi family but she does need to pander for the minority vote. Cuz priorities.

She is as slimy as they come.

Just an observation.

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She is not even human

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She is not even human



If she's the one who's not human, then I don't even know what to say about Trumpy-boy. How do you even describe him? Hard to find proper words.



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Trump is FINALLY the one saying what needs to be said. You might hate him, but you can NOT say that you've never sat down and complained about politicians doing and saying the same thing; usually none of which is even relevant or realistic

Fact is Hillary threw the Benghazi people under the bus yet supports the travon and gentile giants of our society

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Trump is FINALLY the one saying what needs to be said.



Not everything he says, sorry. Plus, there is a RIGHT way and a WRONG way of expressing yourself. Guess where Trump stands?

Some of the things he says are beyond ridiculous: 'Yeah, let's ban all muslims from entering the country! Yeah, that's a great idea!"

I admit, I'm also tired of people sugarcoating the fact that Muslims are WAYYY more violent, hateful and detached from the modern world than Christians, but I will never say that we should just ban every muslim person from enterting the country. I would choose my words carefully.

Trump doesn't do that. He thinks that by being provocative he's winning. Exactly the opposite. His numbers may go up for a few weeks, but at the end of the day he's slowly but surely digging his own grave. Watch, and you'll see.

I'm not the biggest Clinton fan, but IMO, as a political figure, she's heads and tails above Trump. It's not even a contest.



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Number one! The Travons and the "gentle giants" you're talking about are cases riddled with racism and corruption. So don't even bring them up!

Second, trump is such a liar, saying in 1998 and 2008 that Bill Clinton's affair was totally unimportant and that it was something he himself could have gotten in trouble for, and now, he calls Bill Clinton a molester of women. Seems as if Trumpy boy just wants your vote as he's completely dishonest!

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She is a bloated serpent.





Don't f@ck with me fellas! This aint my first time at the rodeo.

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You people are completely deranged. The Benghazi hearings are politically motivated. What exactly do you think is being "covered up" regarding the terror attack? That you people get angry over the Obama administration misinterpreting the reasons for the attack (even though captured suspect Ahmed Abu Khattala stated that the assault was in retaliation for the video)? You people are a complete joke with your faux outrage. You're more angry with Democrats than you are with the perpetrators of the attack.

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You freaking dumbass

Hillary described the attack to her Daughter and the president of Egypt as "A pre-planned terrorist attack"

She only called it a "protest against the video that escalated" to the American people

But feel free to continue to hide in your ignorance

One flew east, one flew west and one flew over the cuckoo's nest

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You're talking to a lib, therefore dumbass is redundant

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You Republitards are some of the dumbest people alive.

"This year I'm voting Republican. The Democrats left a bad taste in my mouth."
-Monica Lewinsky

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You are clearly so stupid that my point flew way over your head. It is irrelevant whether or not the Benghazi terror attack was in response to a video or because of well, terrorism. It was terrorism, plain and simple, and you morons are too busy splitting hairs over motive to ignore the fact that it was terrorism, plain and simple. And of course, you're politicizing an issue of national security.

"This year I'm voting Republican. The Democrats left a bad taste in my mouth."
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So it doesn't matter that Hillary admitted in an email to her repulsive daughter that this was a terror attack, THEN went out and accused, and arrested, someone who had nothing to do with it??? We may be outraged with the democrat party and their abuses (Hillary, Lois Lerner et al) but at least we can view a situation and honestly form a reasonable opinion about our scumbag ruling class

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Repulsive daughter? Sounds like your just full of hate-can you actually produce this email?

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Read the email. She didn't admit it was a terror attack. She said it was an act of terrorism. She didn't not say WHY they did it, because she sent the email literally the night it occurred, and they had no idea why it happened. She also said she was devastated by it. But you guys keep creating your own realities.

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repulsive daughter? Maybe you should leave America after Hillary becomes President you obnoxious POS.

"This year I'm voting Republican. The Democrats left a bad taste in my mouth."
-Monica Lewinsky

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Ironically, Trump won and all those petulant celebs that said they would leave the USA haven't done so yet so you should go remind them to leave.

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What exactly do you think is being "covered up" regarding the terror attack? That you people get angry over the Obama administration misinterpreting the reasons for the attack (even though captured suspect Ahmed Abu Khattala stated that the assault was in retaliation for the video)?

Here we go again...Have you ever heard of a little thing called F A C T S?

There are scores of Bengazi citizens who told anyone that would listen that they overheard the rebels stating it was part of al Quaeda's strategy to attack the Consulate on the anniversary of 9/11/2001. And yes, the evidence (those pesky facts again) shows that Hillary Clinton and Obama both tried to blame the attacks on a trailer for an anti-Muslim film by a 3rd rate director. Not only that but the Americans who survied on the ground in Bengazi all dispute the governments story about why they didn't get support when requested and the reasons for the attack. Even the interim leader of Libya confirmed that as they sent troops that night and morning to help the besieged survivors. He also said the same thing the Bengazi citizens said about the reasons for the attack.

How many facts and testimonies do you need to convince you that the state department in Washington lied as to the cause and why they didn't send help when requested. This was a cover up and and the fact that Ahmed Abu Khattala states it was because of the movie trailer is just a defensive effort by him to justify the attacks like that would be a valid excuse for those actions. Whether that idea was suggested to Khattala by government agents to back up Obama and Clinton's story to help his case remains to be determined.


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I didn't see any republicans crying over Trayvon. I saw them trying to defend somebody they knew was 1000% guilty just to pander to an audience.

Are Fn problem all started because we want live in everybodies backyard. I'm not saying the Middle East isn't crazy because we obviously know it is. But just think, if we could go back 30 to 40 years and never get envolved in the Middle East drama in the first place maybe they wouldn't be trying to blame us for their own stupidity and craziness. Maybe they would've just stayed killing each other like they had been doing for the last 2000 years.

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I didn't see any republicans crying over Trayvon. I saw them trying to defend somebody they knew was 1000% guilty just to pander to an audience.

You liberals just amaze me with your ignorance.

Yes, Zimmerman was guilty of killing Travon Martin but a jury and the majority of people in the U.S. thought it was justifiable self-defense. Of course you had to find the facts of the case and not depend on TV networks like NBC that intentionally edited the 911 tapes making Zimmerman out to be a racist when the opposite was true. Florida law, whether you believe in it or not, is not only the law of the land in Florida but in 19 other states. The so-called "stand-your-ground law" has held up in appellate courts all over the country.

if we could go back 30 to 40 years and never get envolved in the Middle East drama in the first place maybe they wouldn't be trying to blame us for their own stupidity and craziness.

You need to go back 68 years to 1948 when the U.N. handed over land to the Jews that the Palestinians falsely claimed that was their land even though they never had a country and no historical claim to the land. I'm not saying that the Jews claim to the land was any more valid but both groups had lived on the land for centuries and as sort of a payback for the holocaust being ignored by the Allies during WWII and for a place that would accept Jewish people after WWII. The land was divided with the Arabs getting most of it and the Jews getting a small part of the area as a Jewish homeland.

That was when the trouble started in the Middle East. It was actions taken by the Allies and the U.N. after the war in dividing up land previously ruled by the Turks and installing puppet governments based mainly by tribal chieftains. Especially the original area of Jordan (before the Israelis captured it after being attacked over and over). IOW the Palestinians were given land and a nation called Trans-Jordan.

You can't blame the U.S. for creating turmoil in the Middle East any more than you can blame the U.S. for supporting the new nation of Israel. That action was a U.N. mandate and although the U.S. might have led in the support of Israel in the early years other nations of the new world after WWII supported such actions. Admittedly, some of them because they didn't want the Jews in their front/back yard.

Maybe they would've just stayed killing each other like they had been doing for the last 2000 years.

The Muslims have been at war with non-Muslims for 1500 years. Muhammad didn't come on the scene with his invented religion until around 610 CE (AD). Long after the Romans decided to create and legalize Christianity. That's when Muhammad declared war on non-believers and not only declared war but carrying on wars of exceptional brutality. Especially against the Jews because in those days they were better off financially than the Arabs. IOW it was more jealousy than religion that created their hatred of the Jewish and later Christian people.

The present day hatred of the U.S. by many of the members of the Islamic faith is not only because of our support of Israel. Rather it is the teaching of Muhammad and the war-like atmosphere he created that is just being carried on today against all non-Muslims no matter where on Earth they live.

You guys need to do a little reading of history and facts before spouting off in comments I see all over the Net. It's downright pitiful pitifulness on pitabread (hold the mayo).




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Hear Hear, well said.

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Most of what you said I agree with, however I do have a couple points to add.

It's is true the U.N. gave Israel Muslim land but for the next 40 years the U.S. would simply be a negotiator between the Middle East and Israel. It's not until the early 80's that we start to really become involved first hand and start becoming the Middle East's number two target behind Israel.

Whatever progress the we had achieved with negotiations on the Israeli-Palestinian front stalled in the 80's when the Lebanese civil war started, Israel invaded Lebanon for the second time, in June 1982, advancing as far as Beirut, the Lebanese capital city, before Reagan, who had condoned the invasion, finally intervened to demand a cease-fire.

American, Italian and French troops landed in Beirut that summer to mediate the exit of 6,000 PLO militants. The troops then withdrew, only to precipitately return following the assassination of Lebanese President-elect Bashir Gemeyel and the retaliatory massacre, by Israeli-backed Christian militias, of up to 3,000 Palestinians in the refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila, south of Beirut.

In April 1983, a truck bomb demolished the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, killing 63 people. On Oct. 23, 1983, simultaneous bombings killed 241 American soldiers and 57 French paratroopers in their Beirut barracks. American forces withdrew shortly after. The Reagan administration the faced several crises as the Iranian-backed Lebanese *beep* organization that became known as Hezbollah took several Americans hostage in Lebanon.

The 1986 Iran-Contra affair revealed that the Reagan Administration had secretly negotiated arms-for-hostages deals with Iran, discrediting Reagan?s claim that he would not negotiate with terrorists

Throughout the 1980s, the Reagan Administration supported Israel?s expansion of Jewish settlements in occupied territories. The administration also supported Saddam Hussein in the eight-year Iran-Iraq War, which ended in 1988. The administration provided logistical and intelligence support, believing, wrongly, that Saddam could destabilize the Iranian regime and defeat the Islamic Revolution.

After supporting Suddam for a decade the U.S. then turns around defends Kuwait not really defending Kuwait but for the it's oil which we already possess in our own country.

Bottom line as Americans we always claim our number one right is the ability to defend ourselves, our family and our property. So basically if you're living in someone's backyard there going to notice you and there most likely going to come after you. Oh, and you really shouldn't want them coming after you if their bat *beep* crazy like the Middle East. That's all I'm saying. Let the couple who fights, argues and screams at each other in their own house do it as long as it's in their own house.

I myself do not believe in religion. To me it's responsible for more deaths than anything in the history of the human race.
However the teachings of Islam just like Judaism, just like the Christian bible and other religions have many different variations of itself. It's been thousands of years since their origins, whose to know what is the original scripture or what was spun to give individuals power over others, which we know has been done over history.

The last thing. Let's be real if any one was to have the stand your ground law be applied to them it should've been Trayvon as he was the one who was stalked while walking home. He's the one who had the right to defend himself. The jury like some parts of America believed what they wanted to believe. They basically dismissed what the key witness, I can't remember her name told them what she was told by Trayvon and what she heard right before the phone dropped to the ground. They discounted her simply because she was from a low income area, she was black and basically cuz she wasn't the brightest crayon in the box. That still doesn't mean what she said wasn't true! Little George claims he was attacked by a menacing black teenager in a hoody for no real reason and certain parts of America just ate that *beep* up. It had nothing to do with the facts of the case. You say oh well you watched it on nbc and cnn. I guess your referring to the one line line of the Zimmerman phone call that was left out by nbc. That still didn't change the narrative of his convo with the dispatcher on the phone, nbc just shortened it to get the main points of what he was thinking and how he was told to respond in the phone. It's not like the part they cut out was some oh *beep* moment that Fox News found. Did that even matter tho, the trial was on tv, it didn't matter what station you watched it on, it was the same coverage of the court room on every station. However some stations were covering it truthfully and while another was trying to turn murderer into hero for its own agenda. It was almost laughable watching Kimberly Guilfoyle say day after day people aren't hearing the real facts of the case. I would think to myself, people are hearing the same *beep* you're hearing cuz the trials on every damn tv station. Let's be honest. If Trayvon was a white kid do you honestly think little George would've been able to get off? The answer is NO!

Both MSNBC and Fox News have their angles but I personally like to figure out the bs between the two of them and settle somewhere in the middle.

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"Yes, Zimmerman was guilty of killing Travon Martin but a jury and the majority of people in the U.S. thought it was justifiable self-defense."

Jerry, you believe it was self-defense-right? If so, why?

Zimmerman did NOT take the witness stand. Nobody else witnessed the shooting. Two witnesses saw Zimmerman on top of Martin seconds after the gunshot.

When the third witness arrived at the crime scene (a minute or two later) Zimmerman was still on top of Martin.

Many people ASSUME Zimmerman was crying for help. Does that make any sense to YOU? The last two screams were 4 seconds and 1 second prior to the gunshot. It makes sense to YOU to scream for help while pointing a gun at a teenager's heart and squeezing the trigger?

Martin was on top of Zimmerman more than 100 feet away from where the body was found and five minutes prior to the MURDER.

Best guest is Zimmerman continued to stalk Martin after he let him get up and attacked him again.

You are aware Zimmerman did chase Martin after being told not to do so - right?

If you started a fight and got hit a few times, do you think you have the right to murder that person and call it self-defense?

What evidence do you believe was presented at trial that remotely implies it was self-defense? Or does just saying it makes it so because the murderer's father was once a judge and the victim is black?

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I don't think you watched the same trial I did and listened to the same witnesses who were on the scene.

Keep in mind that Martin was not some 12 yr. old kid. He was bigger and leaner than Zimmerman, a known drug user and seller and the stereotypical gang banger from Miami. I doubt Zimmerman was ever in a fist fight in his life but don't you think that Martin may have had experience in that on the streets of Miami? Zimmerman was sucker punched and went down with Martin on top of him. Witnesses confirmed it. It is possible they were rolling around on the ground and at one point Zimmerman was on top but who had the wound on the back of their head from the head hitting the concrete? Martin had no injuries other than the gunshot and his knuckles from hitting Zimmerman. You really believe that Zimmerman could have beat Martin in a street fight with fists? Maybe you should get out more on the streets of a large city.



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Jerry, clearly you don't know many of the facts about this case.

I'm a white man who lives in Florida. Why would I lie or make up BS?

If a case interests me, I take the time to look up the facts before I have any opinion on that subject matter.

You made a reference to that FIRST fight - when Zimmerman hit his head on the cement. There was a SECOND encounter - NO DOUBT - over 100 feet away on the grass.

For some reason you want this to be a self-defense case.

How do YOU know Zimmerman was sucker punched? If the murderer told that to the police during questioning, that MUST be true? There were no witnesses observing the first encounter and Zimmerman did not take the witness stand.

In your mind, how could it be self-defense if the murderer doesn't take the witness stand and there are NO WITNESSES to the shooting?

Below is a short video about the murder. Try watching the entire brief video with an open mind.

Remember - there were TWO encounters. Zimmerman talking about his head hitting the cement was at the first location. Also the man witnessing Martin on top was at the first location.

https://youtu.be/mm_pj3Fs3YU

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I watched the whole thing and that video has been taken out of order of what actually happened and is a mess. The title itself tells the story of not being impartial, THE MURDER OF TRAYVON MARTIN. That's why the events and recordings were taken out of context.

Nice try though.

Regardless, there is one fact that you keep forgetting the importance of and that's that a jury said it was justified according to the laws of Florida. Why didn't feds go after him? They sure wanted to but they didn't have a case and dropped their investigation.




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Jerry, a gang banger, come on man stop that bs. He smoked some weed like 60% of kids under the age of 25. You're exactly what I'm talking about. You're the part of america willing to believe anything to make the death of the innocent acceptable in you're own mind because of an agenda you feel you have to defend no matter what. Think for yourself man. Real is real and truth is truth. That's all I can tell you.

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Hi. I think you may have forgotten about the text messages. I thought you followed the case. Mr. Martin bragged about beating people up and even bragged about beating up a bus driver. Further he had planned to buy a handgun and even had a pic of it on his cell.

These are the facts, they are undisputed and entered into public record. I suggest you refresh your memory.

As for MSNBC. You should berate them with the same zeal you use on the American public. They intentionally edited the audio recording to paint Zimmerman as a racist. That is obvious. Edited for time? Hardly. They removed the single bit that would make sense of the context of the entire call.

They also attempted to manipulate their simpleton viewers by consciously using a pic of poor little victim of society and evil Zimmerman, Trayvon, at 12 years old and a five year old pic of Zimmerman in a jumpsuit.

They also lightened Zimmerman's skin in their photos and blurred out the injuries to the back of his head when showing cam footage of him after being arrested.

CNN was just as bad. When I think about the news outlets, and especially MSNBC, I can only surmise that they may have emotional, unprofessional and juvenile pre schoolers at the helm. They have a history of this sort of behaviour and I am amazed they are still on the air..

Zimmerman was the antithesis of a racist but was the perfect scapegoat for typical criminal behaviour. It's never the criminals fault, right? Not even partly? Why should they correct their behaviour when they have people like yourself roll out the endless carpet of excuses for them? If you know something the jury, the DOJ, the actual eyewitnesses(many black) and everyone else involved doesn't know please step forward with this undiscovered evidence. If not, let it go. It's over. The jury, the law, and the people have spoken.



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I guess in your mind O.J. Simpson was 100% innocent too.

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Jerry, very well written and documented! It's "refreshing" to read factual writings instead of the crap that some people write here, well done!

I drive real *beep* fast so try to keep up!!
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alan118552 said-->> "Jerry, very well written and documented! It's "refreshing" to read factual writings instead of the crap that some people write here, well done!"

Thanks, but it often feels like I'm talking to a wall on Internet forums. Even with facts you can repeat them over and over and some of these folks won't accept them or else bring up an unrelated case or an out of the time line statement that may or may not be true. I try but many times folks just don't want to or can't believe in the facts. I realize that one's thought process can be warped by pre-existing beliefs but I try very hard to not to rely on my past beliefs when I'm shown facts that are different. Some just can't do that, unfortunately.


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