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Is it true you're allowed to shoot intruders


If they bring a gun into your house? I live in a country where you cannot own guns and it seems stupid to me that you can anywhere but I realise laws are different.

So in this case is it perfectly legal for him to hunt them down and shoot them inside his house?

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Yes, it's called the Castle doctrine. Almost all US states will allow you to use force to defend your land against an unlawful intruder if your life is in danger.

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So this guy according to the law wasn't doing anything wrong. Obviously excluding the part of him keeping that girl prisoner etc.
But to the other three all was legal.

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You are forgetting about trying to rape Rocky. He has the right to shoot Rocky in self defense not chain her up and rape her.

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Yes, which is why they could not ever go to the police. The blind guy, aside from his human incubator, was within complete legal means to defend his home.

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None of the killings shown in the movie were legal. Castle Doctrine doesn't allow you to murder people who are no longer a threat, only allows for self defence.



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Actually if you leave the subplot out and his struggle with Money he could use Deadly force the moment that gun was pulled on him (dependent state law and I live in one that allows it). They where both still in a struggle and he's all so a disable person. Now if that was out side my house and I had stopped the threat than yah I would had no grounds to just shoot him. He also didn't know how many others where in his house and who else was armed at that point.

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It depends on the state. I live in a state with "Stand Your Ground" laws. There is no duty to retreat from people who have broken into your home with a deadly weapon

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He didn't retreat, he disarmed him and held his own gun to his head. I have no issues with someone killing an intruder in self defence...however the killings were not in self defence.

No stand your ground or castle doctrine laws allow for execution style killing like when he killed Money or the other kid who was trying to escape and was shot in the back.

Now we the audience can see what he did was murder, it may be difficult to prove it in a court with no witnesses.


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No stand your ground or castle doctrine laws allow for execution style killing like when he killed Money or the other kid who was trying to escape and was shot in the back.

Now we the audience can see what he did was murder, it may be difficult to prove it in a court with no witnesses.


This is a pretty good summary. In this situation, I would argue it would be almost impossible to convict a blind man. He could simply argue that he had no idea he was shooting them in the back since he can't see, and that he feared for his life.

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No stand your ground or castle doctrine laws allow for execution style killing like when he killed Money or the other kid who was trying to escape and was shot in the back.

Now we the audience can see what he did was murder, it may be difficult to prove it in a court with no witnesses.


Very good points.

These laws are intended to provide home owners a measure of self defense. When it comes to guns, you have to assume that any shot you take at someone could hit an important artery and lead to death. Police are trained to shoot until a target is immobilized and down, not "shoot for the leg" to casually injure them like you see in movies. Given that, you have to allow for the possibility that a home owner trying to defend themselves will have no choice but to take shots at an intruder that could lead to the intruder's death.

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I live in Georgia in the US and yes, it's 100% legal to shoot someone if they break into your home, armed or not. A few years ago, two teenagers broke into my garage and were stealing things out of it. My back door leading to the garage has windows on it so I was able to watch every move they made. Every time they walked back into the garage, it looked like they were getting closer to the door that leads into the house. I was on the phone with the Sheriff's office, giving them details, waiting but was also holding my own gun. The deputies came before anything else happened thankfully. Once they were arrested and I was giving my report, one of the deputies told me that from the moment the thugs stepped foot in my garage I had every right to shoot them. Turns out they were armed. It wouldn't have mattered either way though bc I had no way of knowing. Here, if you illegally enter a property, be prepared to get shot.

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But, if they are outside and you shoot them you will be arrested and charged.

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That actually depends if they are posing a threat. If they have a weapon and/or are threatening to harm you, you have the right to defend yourself with lethal force. You are right though, in that, if you shoot them and there are no witnesses and the person isn't armed you have a much higher risk of being arrested and being at the mercy of the courts.

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I live in a country where you cannot own guns and it seems stupid to me that you can anywhere but I realise laws are different.


By the way, why does lawful gun ownership seem stupid? Someone breaks into your house with bad intentions for you and your family, and the intruder my be armed themselves. Why would you not be allowed to own a gun to defend your life in your own home?

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Because the intruders don't have guns either as they are so hard to obtain. Most home invasions are done by petty thieves, drug addicts etc. These people are unable to get their hands on guns and as such you never hear about shootings.

Of course you get the bikie gangs and organised crime are able to get their hands on guns but these people aren't breaking into regular people's houses. They generally just shoot each other.

With less guns in the community it stand to reason there will be less shootings.

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I live in a country where you cannot own guns


Which country is that? North Korea?

Lots of countries have strict laws about owning guns, but very few ban it outright.

I live in the UK and handguns are illegal, but you can legally own a shotgun or a bolt action rifle with little hassle.


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Think about it. Do you really think North Koreans have access to internet to write on IMDB boards?

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yeah I really thought you live in North Korea...it was a joke.

So which country do you live in that bans all civilian ownership of guns?




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Australia.

Obviously farmers can have rifles for shooting kangaroos etc, or if you're a security guard or similar and have valid reason to own a gun you can but you can't just go and buy a gun to "protect yourself"

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but you can't just go and buy a gun to "protect yourself"


I think you probably can...citizens in Australia can apply for licenses and get firearms. A quick google search tells me over 3 million gun are in private ownership in a population of 24 million. So its not a lot but its not nothing as you implied. Its much more than in the UK for example.

You have to get a license and a permit, and as long as these are granted you can buy a gun. You just don't say 'its for self defence'...you say its for clay Pidgeon shooting or collecting.

But Australia like the UK doesn't 'love' guns like the US, its not a big part of our culture...and I think that's far preferable.


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