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Isaac Asimov and Psychohisotry


I wish the writers have read Asimov's Foundation series about Psychohistory.

About future prediction. Humans as a group is very predictable. Individual human is not. So the seers and their ability on predicting Four's action is very questionable.

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A normal person would be difficult to predict but Four isn't normal. The seers keep track of prominent individuals which includes the entire Raza crew.

Also the seers failed in their predictions.

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I wish the writers have read Asimov's Foundation series about Psychohistory.

About future prediction. Humans as a group is very predictable.


Actually, even those stories needed the Second Foundation (with superhuman psychic abilities) to keep the Plan on track by dealing with individual aberrations (the Mule, for example), so maybe the Seers aren't quite so far fetched after all. And as for the later Foundation novels where he involved the Gaia robots, which brought still more superhuman influences into it... Not the best idea Asimov ever had, to be honest.

Apart from which, the Foundation novels and stories were fiction, not scientific fact, when all was said and done.

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"About future prediction. Humans as a group is very predictable. Individual human is not. So the seers and their ability on predicting Four's action is very questionable."

I would say the last 3 minutes of the last ep proved that.

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I would say the last 3 minutes of the last ep proved that.


My point is that if the seers are experts on future prediction, they should know they can only predict on society movement, not individual action. They are too confident and don't know the limitations at all.

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In the books following the original trilogy, there were members of the First Foundation that were confident they were making progress in adapting Seldon's equations to apply to individuals.

And there is another master of sci-fi, Frank Herbert, that established his Mentats did have the necessary deductive abilities to make accurate predictions of individuals actions.

And, with allowances, individuals' behaviour can be predicted. For example, isn't it likely that the woman conducting a campaign against a guy in her office won't relent until she has achieved her goal and got rid of him (either by getting him to quit or getting everybody else to turn on him) without openly showing her hand?

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I think that Chaos Theory, and the discovery that very small perturbations in a complex system can have very large effects, essentially kills psychohistory (and Seeing as presented here) as a practical science.

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